Is this guy a dick or is this ableism?

[Hagi]

There seems to be a distinct lack of whirlpools in this story.

Anyway it's not a dick move and even if you felt it was I wouldn't say it was ableist to feel that was so. At least, I'm assuming you'd feel exactly the same way if someone decided to enter a 200 character email or misspelled theirs multiple times even when able to type competently.

 

[tacotrainwreck]

It's an ism. Oh yes. Definitely an ism. Definitely, definitely an ism. If you can stick an ism on it, then it's definitely an ism. Except to all those ismists out there who don't take isms seriously.

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

It'd be a dick move if he looked you in the eyes while he did it, possibly with a smarmy grin on his face.

It'd be Ableist if you were getting annoyed at him specifically because he was disabled, not just because he was slow.

There's a difference between 'fuck it's cold out, wish he'd hurry up' and 'Oi Baby Hands, my nipples have turned to ice!'.

This is true and it made me laugh.

To add though, it's neither a dick move, nor ableist, it's the person doing what's needed to get coupons, this could be especially helpful to them if they're also on a fixed income. Personally I might go as far to ask if they want any help, but that's about it.

 

[LadyMint]

I have to agree with the others who have already said he's not being a dick, the person behind him is just being impatient. Don't get me wrong, I have definitely had "Will you frickin' hurry up" thoughts while waiting for someone slower than me to finish something so it's my turn. But I don't think less of the person. I don't know them. I'm just annoyed with the situation. After a while I might complain/laugh about it with a friend but then life goes on. Cold weather is not an excuse to put someone in the dick bin. He's disabled, he wants to get e-mails. If I was in that scenario, I'd just do one of my "It's cold but if I keep moving that helps" dances. Maybe it'd put a smile on both our faces when he turns around and sees me acting silly. Or maybe he'd be creeped out and I'd just have the smile on my face.

 

[Phasmal]

Neither?

Unless in that situation you expect a disabled person to be able to go as fast as a non-disabled person, then yeah, it's probably a bit ableist.

People with disabilities are generally used to these kind of situations, anyway. I remember last year I got hit by a cyclist on my way home because of my shitty hearing (I'm not disabled but my hearing's just a bit shoddy) and it was a very awkward situation. The bloke on the bike felt really bad for hitting me and I felt awful for not being able to tell he was behind me.

 

[Kotaro]

In this scenario, I will take a third option and ask him if he would like me to help enter it for him.
If he says yes, then we both get what we want. If he says no, then I should just suck it up, I guess.
My real question is who the hell uses Redbox anymore when streaming services exist?

 

[MHR]

I'd just grit my teeth and wait. What, is the time it takes to push in an email address the point at which I throw a tantrum and shoot up the place? No, I think I'd rather wait for a better excuse for my Florida Man moment than being annoyed and cold at a fucking Redbox.

At the very least, I can take solace in the fact that he's suffering just as much as me, damn ham-fisted prick

 

[Thyunda]

You could offer to help. He's as cold as you are.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Waiting in the cold is a part of life. Slow people are a part of life. Disabled people are a part of life. What someone else wants to do of their own accord for their own benefit should not bother you unless you have paranoid beliefs and/or little to no patience. The birth defect detail seems completely unnecessary for this situation unless it is to attract a certain crowd. Anbody could be taking their sweet ass time and it wouldn't make me less or more angry/impatient.
If it turns out that any person is taking their time purposefully to annoy someone else like me, well i feel truly sorry for them that they feel that need. It is more their loss than mine. However, that seems highly unlikely to happen in reality. Not impossible, but unlikely.

Completely irrelevant. You simply have little patience, end of story.

Define 'little'. Moving at a normal speed is expected and normal. People having that expectation is 'little patience'. It's people who think they're entitled to take forever who have way too much patience.

You expect someone else to define "little" while you use terms like "normal" and "forever" so thoughtlessly. Is "normal" everyone who is similar to you while "forever" is anything that takes longer than you want? Sounds very much like that "little" definition in context of patience you were looking for.

 

[shrekfan246]

Completely irrelevant. You simply have little patience, end of story.

Define 'little'. Moving at a normal speed is expected and normal. People having that expectation is 'little patience'. It's people who think they're entitled to take forever who have way too much patience.

Define "normal speed".

I have a relatively short stride, due to the fact that I don't have the longest legs and generally am not comfortable with bending and extending them fully to walk (which also frequently causes me to shuffle my feet on the ground; I had weird ankles when I was very young and dislocated my knee in high school). Consequently, I tend to have a much slower walk than people who are taller or more athletic than I am, and I need to occasionally jog to catch back up if I'm walking with somebody who has a long stride.

Loads of people don't walk much faster than I do, however. In fact, my brother, who is both shorter than me and has not as far as I'm aware had the same issues with his legs that I have, tends to walk even slower than I do.

Now yes, if people are just meandering around like they don't know where they're going or how to get there, then that's perhaps a bit strange and not what you would "normally" see, but the thing is, people generally are entitled to take as long as they need. The wild thing is, unless you're parked in a 30-60 minute parking zone or have to be somewhere on time, there really isn't anything out there that requires a person to move at hyperspeed at all times. And, while it may be inconsiderate, what other people have to do isn't really usually someone's first concern when they're out and about. If I'm talking with whoever's behind the register, trying to decide if I need to spend an extra $15 or not for some sort of warranty on the product, it's not really my problem that the guy behind me wanted to be in and out of the store in 2 minutes. Sorry if you are in a rush, but I don't know you and am not a mind reader, and there's also usually an expectation that, at least during heavy load hours during the day and afternoon, if you go to a shop or bank or anywhere else, you should be prepared for traffic.

Granted, maybe if I lived in a densely-packed city rather than one of the least populous states in the US I'd have a more courteous view of this sort of thing. Oh well.

 

[K12]

Well first off this is silly scenario because who rents physical copies of movies anymore.

I'd say neither. The guy isn't deliberately taking longer for no reason, he just wants something he's being offered and he's first in line. It's not inconsiderate and he's probably just as cold as you. You also aren't being ableist for having private "hurry the fuck up" thoughts even if those thoughts are related to him taking longer because of his disability. You aren't harassing him or discriminating against him you're just being impatient.

The fact that's cold is largely irrelevant because you're renting a movie not getting a life saving vaccination or something. Hurrying up a bit when it's cold is a nice thing to do but not hurrying him doesn't make him a dick, expecially since he's feeling the same cold that you are.

 

[happyninja42]

I have no idea. Since you mention multiple times that he has some disabilities, perhaps he didn't know the email address thing was optional, and thought he had to include it to complete his purchase.

Either way, I don't really have an issue with the guy. Like you said, you chose to continue to stand behind him, and not in your car where it's warm. He didn't force you to stand behind him while he operated the machine. I'm using the plural you, I know it's not you specifically.

 

[SKBPinkie]

Don't be a dick and suggest waiting inside/in your car with the heat on or any other bullshit to fuck up the scenario. You're waiting online, deal with it.

Let's see here (gonna be using the third person "you", not referring to the OP) -

1. You're too dumb to just to not wait in a warmer place.
2. You're an impatient dickwad who doesn't mind waiting for one more minute.
3. You're not considerate in the least. There's no mention in this story of compassion of any sort.
4. More importantly, he was first in line. Don't be a ***** about it. Literally everyone else in society understands how a line / queue works.
5. This -

You could offer to help. He's as cold as you are.

6 (ish). Who still rents physical copies? No seriously, I don't know the numbers on this. I'd imagine it's dying out.

 

[Leg End]

He's wanting his goddamn coupins is what he's doing.
As long as he's not intentionally holding up the line, he's not a dick and the word ableism is giving me a headache.

Well first off this is silly scenario because who rents physical copies of movies anymore.

People who don't live in major/coastal cities or have data caps/generally expensive and/or shitty internet, which is actually a stupidly large portion of the United States. Most people are still on dial up and dsl lines.

 

[runic knight]

Ableist? No, it is impatience and frustration at an unpleasant situation personified by an individual who happens to have a disability. You could replace the person with a slow-moving machine system, feel the exact same, and be no more ableist for it. Like getting mad at other drivers on the road, it is a reaction to events and behaviors you have no control over and which affect you negatively in some way or another. The reason for them being slower (first the disability, then the email thing) is largely irrelevant to you since the whole point of complaint is being slow in the first place and pretty much anything causing it would set the same reaction emotion off.

Feeling guilty about it because of their disability would be a bit silly though, the emotional reaction to something inconveniencing and negatively affecting you is not going to be rationally based in the first place, why worry about it like that after the fact if it was a "justified" feeling of annoyance? Why worry if because you were annoyed at someone with a disability instead of a standard-issue person is indicative of some special prejudice?

As for being a dick, that would be dependent upon intent behind their actions. If it was to make you wait longer, then yes. If it was because they wanted that service and just didn't give a rats ass about you, then no. Not courteous perhaps, but not yet being a dick either.

 

[Madner Kami]

Completely irrelevant. You simply have little patience, end of story.

Define 'little'. Moving at a normal speed is expected and normal. People having that expectation is 'little patience'. It's people who think they're entitled to take forever who have way too much patience.

Define "normal speed".

Exactly. "Normal" is no useful measurement for such issues. For example, "normal speed" for me is, due to my physical build and occupation, what is for others almost jogging-speed.

As for the issue of the thread: As long as people have an eye for the needs of others and behave in a way, that does not conciously inconvience others, I don't mind. Handicapped people will have problems with certain issues and it's out of their control to do anything about it, so any handicapped-induced inconvience for me caused by others, gets a free pass. What I do not tolerate are people who inconvience others while they do not have to, e.g. parking their shopping cart in the middle of the hallway, so I have to maneuver around them with my shopping cart or my pallet truck (when at work) or, yet worse, sitting in the middle of the way as a cackling bunch of hens and blocking entire groups of people moving along their way.

As for "Your fault for not wearing thicker clothes". Did it ever occure to you guys, that he was clothed in such a way for a good reason? For example, due to the way I move (high speed), I produce a lot of heat and thick clothing is a major inconvience even in cold weather (and especially if I have appointments where being all-sweaty is kind of a shitty thing). Now, if I end up in an unexpected queue in my relatively light clothing, the queue is my problem, not my thin clothing.

 

[sageoftruth]

A tricky one for me, since I've never been that guy and have never used a redbox before. I'm guessing it would be albeist. I'm also guessing that I probably wouldn't care, at least in the heat (or lack of) of the moment.
At least it's not scratch tickets. Screw those guys.

 

[Cheesy Goodness]

I've never understood why people don't reserve their movie before going to a Redbox. I never just flip through the pages like a clueless idiot when I get there. I'm in and out in less than a minute, which means nobody has to wait on me, ever. It also guarantees I'll be able to rent the movie I actually want and see if it is in stock.

Just use the app on your phone or go to the website beforehand. You don't have do that all crap in the freaking cold when you get to the machine. They'll automatically send you coupons too, because they already have your email address.

I'm always instantly annoyed when someone is farting around on the machine, but I'll never say anything. The only reason I still bother with Redbox is because its still the cheapest way to rent a movie. It is $2.00 for a Blu-Ray vs. $5.99 on Amazon or PSN. I understand that I am trading a little bit of convenience for the lower price. However, I guess I am petty and hate it when people do stuff the hard way.

 

[Cycloptomese]

This reminds me of the scenario I run into all the time at convenience stores where I'm waiting in line and the person ahead of me is picking out 19 different kinds of lottery tickets. It's not a casino! If you were to slice my throat during those scenarios, you'd be sprayed down with boiling blood. However, I always wait patiently and maintain my composure because that is a service that the establishment offers.

 

[Eclipse Dragon]

Nah it would be a bad situation to be in (for both of you), but it's like writing a check, if that's what they have to do, it's what they have to do, their disability doesn't really play much part in it.

I tend to get more irritated with people who are taking up all the store clerk's time for petty reasons (complaining about store policy for refusal of a refund for example when the minimum wage worker in front of them can't do anything about it), of course this is the only store clerk, because the store runs on a skeleton crew and there's a mounting line behind this person who's putting up a fuss.