Is this morally bad?
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So what you're saying is that you don't want to contribute to the thread?Phasmal said:
This could end badly for you
Well as someone who had a long illness and couldnt `contribute`, I guess I was already on the OP's hit list anyway.Daystar Clarion said:So what you're saying is that you don't want to contribute to the thread?Phasmal said:
This could end badly for you
It's okay, I know what you were trying to do.Phasmal said:Well as someone who had a long illness and couldnt `contribute`, I guess I was already on the OP's hit list anyway.Daystar Clarion said:So what you're saying is that you don't want to contribute to the thread?Phasmal said:
This could end badly for you
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Are the Ausies even in AFG right now? Tell you what buddy, chances are if you stick with that attitude you'll be KICKED OUT of the army right quick.
That was mine and my friends attitudes when we joined.
At school people would ask "You're in the army?!"
"Yeah." We'd Reply
To which they would say "Does that mean you get to shoot guns?"
Then we would get really exited and say something like "Even better, it means we get to shoot people!"
The attitude changes pretty quick, but everyone is there for their own reasons. Some better than others, civilians can't understand. Sometimes I can't even understand.
At school people would ask "You're in the army?!"
"Yeah." We'd Reply
To which they would say "Does that mean you get to shoot guns?"
Then we would get really exited and say something like "Even better, it means we get to shoot people!"
The attitude changes pretty quick, but everyone is there for their own reasons. Some better than others, civilians can't understand. Sometimes I can't even understand.
That's not right. Killing people in combat is something that is an unfortunate necessity, but should not be sought after or celebrated. Purposefully wanting to hurt people means that you probably have some issues that need working through.
Unfortunately, if you join the army, you won't be alone. Plenty of soldiers feel the way you do - they generally tend, however, to be a minority of soldiers and they also generally tend to get into trouble.
Being a good soldier and a halfway decent human being means you have to follow the rules of war. If you really just wish to "fuck up" people with knives and bullets, then you need to consider whether or not you have the discipline to follow the rules of war.
I dislike fundamentalist islamics. I do not wish for them to be killed - I'd rather they put down their weapons and go live a nice, normal life. I realize that most of them won't and that, unfortunately, we will have to kill some of them. But I don't leap to the conclusion that we must "KILL THEM ALL" straight away. I don't like killing, necessary as it is sometimes. Soldiers, good decent soldiers, should not like killing either (and most don't). Soldiers should not feel ashamed of their actions in war (provided they were carried out legally), but they should never feel happy that they killed other human beings.
Unfortunately, if you join the army, you won't be alone. Plenty of soldiers feel the way you do - they generally tend, however, to be a minority of soldiers and they also generally tend to get into trouble.
Being a good soldier and a halfway decent human being means you have to follow the rules of war. If you really just wish to "fuck up" people with knives and bullets, then you need to consider whether or not you have the discipline to follow the rules of war.
I dislike fundamentalist islamics. I do not wish for them to be killed - I'd rather they put down their weapons and go live a nice, normal life. I realize that most of them won't and that, unfortunately, we will have to kill some of them. But I don't leap to the conclusion that we must "KILL THEM ALL" straight away. I don't like killing, necessary as it is sometimes. Soldiers, good decent soldiers, should not like killing either (and most don't). Soldiers should not feel ashamed of their actions in war (provided they were carried out legally), but they should never feel happy that they killed other human beings.
Really? I'd rather he do it here on the streets for a possibly justified cause than over in the Middle East.JoJo said:
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Eh, vigilantism generally isn't a good idea and has a very high risk of hurting innocent people, admittedly so does war to a certain extent but at-least as part of an army he'd be expected to follow certain rules of conduct.manic_depressive13 said:
You might have some problems on your psychological evaluation, if that's actually how you feel. Though I suppose the warrior spirit isn't totally dead in the modern world, and if combat really does appeal to you I don't see why not.
Though it's probably not healthy.
Though it's probably not healthy.
Its not morally bad persay, however it is a very gross over-expectation about what the army will offer you. Expect to spend a lot of time properly maintaining your uniform/bunk than running around being Rambo. :/
This looks like a fun topic to weigh in on.
There is no such thing as bad morality, except from the view of other moralaties, making it a tad redundant.
That being said, from my morality, you are very very very wrong.
Let us all hope you do not act upon your thoughts.
(I'm refering specifically to the comments regarding those who do not participate in society, and partially towards the OP)
There is no such thing as bad morality, except from the view of other moralaties, making it a tad redundant.
That being said, from my morality, you are very very very wrong.
Let us all hope you do not act upon your thoughts.
(I'm refering specifically to the comments regarding those who do not participate in society, and partially towards the OP)
Is it morally wrong to have a desire to kill people? Yes, because our morals are decided by what benefits the 'society' we live in, and killing other humans is detrimental to the unity of that society, ergo, the desire to kill is morally wrong. It's also a sign that you may have deeper emotional or psychological issues than even you realize, I suggest an evaluation by a trained professional, which you'll receive during the application process.
That being said, those with a true desire to kill (And not those who simply say they do on the internet to sound tough) make the best soldiers, they were the one in ten during WWI that were actually firing their rifles at the Germans (or Allies), they are the ones who become decorated marksmen, war heroes, and get action flicks made about them.
In conclusion, there is likely something wrong with you, but turning that something towards what can debatably be called for the greater good is probably one of the better ways to harness such a disability.
That being said, those with a true desire to kill (And not those who simply say they do on the internet to sound tough) make the best soldiers, they were the one in ten during WWI that were actually firing their rifles at the Germans (or Allies), they are the ones who become decorated marksmen, war heroes, and get action flicks made about them.
In conclusion, there is likely something wrong with you, but turning that something towards what can debatably be called for the greater good is probably one of the better ways to harness such a disability.
Well, you'll be disappointed. It has been said: Wars are hours of boredom mixed with moments of excitement. (I've always wanted to use that quote) So your ''dream'' of killing people and blowing shit up will be more like a long, slow nightmare. Watch Jarhead if you want to know what I mean.
OT: yes, I do think this is morally iffy. I like to think that the army has been called to life not to blow shit up, but to protect, preserve and defend the country from foreign invaders, peacefuly if they can and voilently if they must.
OT: yes, I do think this is morally iffy. I like to think that the army has been called to life not to blow shit up, but to protect, preserve and defend the country from foreign invaders, peacefuly if they can and voilently if they must.
It's funny because most of the people who go in with that mentality don't last very long in combat, let alone basic training.
Don't worry. If you're training in the army is any good, they WILL get this out of your system.
The only thing you learn in EVERY single martial arts is: The avoided fight is the won fight.
And yes, civilization IS going down the crapper. But hey, what can you do.
The only thing you learn in EVERY single martial arts is: The avoided fight is the won fight.
And yes, civilization IS going down the crapper. But hey, what can you do.
It sounds like a good idea. You'd certainly be away from everyone else, though how many asses you'll kick is hard to say, especially with the Aussie Army.
From what I understand, being a grunt is mostly carrying a lot of heavy stuff around you, being hot and sweaty, and constantly in fear. Talk to a recruiter, and as long as you're honest with them and yourself, it might not be a bad idea. Just remember that you still have to follow the rules of war.
Watch Generation Kill if possible.
From what I understand, being a grunt is mostly carrying a lot of heavy stuff around you, being hot and sweaty, and constantly in fear. Talk to a recruiter, and as long as you're honest with them and yourself, it might not be a bad idea. Just remember that you still have to follow the rules of war.
Watch Generation Kill if possible.