Is this morally bad?

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Mazza35

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Daystar Clarion said:
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Just wouldn't go to the wars, WWII, drafting. Working as a public servant (Railways) except from draft.
Just because we live longer doesn't mean we live better, everyone is getting fatty, lazier and so many people just sit and do nothing to contribute to society and still get money.
I really think those people should be killed. Unless they get off their lazy asses and work for the betterment of everyone.
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, which worries me because I'm usually pretty good at telling the difference...


You want to make things better for everyone, but want to kill those who don't?

I...

What?
Basically yeah, contribute or die. Pretty good motivation I think.
Let's just say that I'm glad you're in a very small minority.
How is it a bad thing? Okay it's a little a-moral. But people seem to forget that only 80 years ago, if you didn't contribute, you did die!
 
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Mazza35 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Mazza35 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Mazza35 said:
Just wouldn't go to the wars, WWII, drafting. Working as a public servant (Railways) except from draft.
Just because we live longer doesn't mean we live better, everyone is getting fatty, lazier and so many people just sit and do nothing to contribute to society and still get money.
I really think those people should be killed. Unless they get off their lazy asses and work for the betterment of everyone.
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, which worries me because I'm usually pretty good at telling the difference...


You want to make things better for everyone, but want to kill those who don't?

I...

What?
Basically yeah, contribute or die. Pretty good motivation I think.
Let's just say that I'm glad you're in a very small minority.
How is it a bad thing? Okay it's a little a-moral. But people seem to forget that only 80 years ago, if you didn't contribute, you did die!
Great!

Hey, why we're at it, let's go back to the Dark Ages, only good things can come from that right?
 

Mazza35

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Daystar Clarion said:
Mazza35 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Mazza35 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Mazza35 said:
Just wouldn't go to the wars, WWII, drafting. Working as a public servant (Railways) except from draft.
Just because we live longer doesn't mean we live better, everyone is getting fatty, lazier and so many people just sit and do nothing to contribute to society and still get money.
I really think those people should be killed. Unless they get off their lazy asses and work for the betterment of everyone.
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, which worries me because I'm usually pretty good at telling the difference...


You want to make things better for everyone, but want to kill those who don't?

I...

What?
Basically yeah, contribute or die. Pretty good motivation I think.
Let's just say that I'm glad you're in a very small minority.
How is it a bad thing? Okay it's a little a-moral. But people seem to forget that only 80 years ago, if you didn't contribute, you did die!
Great!

Hey, why we're at it, let's go back to the Dark Ages, only good things can come from that right?
Nah, 1880s for me mate :p
Also, know anyone with a time machine?
 

mad825

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Eh, whatever. You're not the only person.

There are two catches, you wait a lot and you can still be done for murderer...Assuming the army docs don't think you're mentally unstable.
 

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I'm not sure I get the point of this topic since you went all `I'm half joking` on it.

If you want to go to the army to kill people, then duh its bad morally.
Not even gonna address the `contribute or die` nonsense.
 
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Phasmal said:
I'm not sure I get the point of this topic since you went all `I'm half joking` on it.

If you want to go to the army to kill people, then duh its bad morally.
Not even gonna address the `contribute or die` nonsense.
So what you're saying is that you don't want to contribute to the thread?

This could end badly for you :D
 

Mazza35

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Daystar Clarion said:
Phasmal said:
I'm not sure I get the point of this topic since you went all `I'm half joking` on it.

If you want to go to the army to kill people, then duh its bad morally.
Not even gonna address the `contribute or die` nonsense.
So what you're saying is that you don't want to contribute to the thread?

This could end badly for you :D

I like this guy ^^
 

Phasmal

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Daystar Clarion said:
Phasmal said:
I'm not sure I get the point of this topic since you went all `I'm half joking` on it.

If you want to go to the army to kill people, then duh its bad morally.
Not even gonna address the `contribute or die` nonsense.
So what you're saying is that you don't want to contribute to the thread?

This could end badly for you :D
Well as someone who had a long illness and couldnt `contribute`, I guess I was already on the OP's hit list anyway. ;)

 
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Phasmal said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Phasmal said:
I'm not sure I get the point of this topic since you went all `I'm half joking` on it.

If you want to go to the army to kill people, then duh its bad morally.
Not even gonna address the `contribute or die` nonsense.
So what you're saying is that you don't want to contribute to the thread?

This could end badly for you :D
Well as someone who had a long illness and couldnt `contribute`, I guess I was already on the OP's hit list anyway. ;)

It's okay, I know what you were trying to do.

You were obviously aiding me in my artistic Yoshi's Island Synchronised Head-bobbing Owl Dance.


[sub]I got your back.[/sub]
 

senordesol

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Are the Ausies even in AFG right now? Tell you what buddy, chances are if you stick with that attitude you'll be KICKED OUT of the army right quick.
 

Dawns Gate

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That was mine and my friends attitudes when we joined.

At school people would ask "You're in the army?!"
"Yeah." We'd Reply
To which they would say "Does that mean you get to shoot guns?"
Then we would get really exited and say something like "Even better, it means we get to shoot people!"

The attitude changes pretty quick, but everyone is there for their own reasons. Some better than others, civilians can't understand. Sometimes I can't even understand.
 

Korolev

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That's not right. Killing people in combat is something that is an unfortunate necessity, but should not be sought after or celebrated. Purposefully wanting to hurt people means that you probably have some issues that need working through.

Unfortunately, if you join the army, you won't be alone. Plenty of soldiers feel the way you do - they generally tend, however, to be a minority of soldiers and they also generally tend to get into trouble.

Being a good soldier and a halfway decent human being means you have to follow the rules of war. If you really just wish to "fuck up" people with knives and bullets, then you need to consider whether or not you have the discipline to follow the rules of war.

I dislike fundamentalist islamics. I do not wish for them to be killed - I'd rather they put down their weapons and go live a nice, normal life. I realize that most of them won't and that, unfortunately, we will have to kill some of them. But I don't leap to the conclusion that we must "KILL THEM ALL" straight away. I don't like killing, necessary as it is sometimes. Soldiers, good decent soldiers, should not like killing either (and most don't). Soldiers should not feel ashamed of their actions in war (provided they were carried out legally), but they should never feel happy that they killed other human beings.
 

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JoJo said:
Eh, I can't exactly say I share your feelings but if you really want to "fuck people up with bullets and knifes", then I'd rather you do it in the Middle East for a possibly justified cause than back here on the streets.
Really? I'd rather he do it here on the streets for a possibly justified cause than over in the Middle East.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
JoJo said:
Eh, I can't exactly say I share your feelings but if you really want to "fuck people up with bullets and knifes", then I'd rather you do it in the Middle East for a possibly justified cause than back here on the streets.
Really? I'd rather he do it here on the streets for a possibly justified cause than over in the Middle East.
Eh, vigilantism generally isn't a good idea and has a very high risk of hurting innocent people, admittedly so does war to a certain extent but at-least as part of an army he'd be expected to follow certain rules of conduct.
 

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You might have some problems on your psychological evaluation, if that's actually how you feel. Though I suppose the warrior spirit isn't totally dead in the modern world, and if combat really does appeal to you I don't see why not.

Though it's probably not healthy.
 

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Its not morally bad persay, however it is a very gross over-expectation about what the army will offer you. Expect to spend a lot of time properly maintaining your uniform/bunk than running around being Rambo. :/
 

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This looks like a fun topic to weigh in on.

There is no such thing as bad morality, except from the view of other moralaties, making it a tad redundant.
That being said, from my morality, you are very very very wrong.
Let us all hope you do not act upon your thoughts.

(I'm refering specifically to the comments regarding those who do not participate in society, and partially towards the OP)
 

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Is it morally wrong to have a desire to kill people? Yes, because our morals are decided by what benefits the 'society' we live in, and killing other humans is detrimental to the unity of that society, ergo, the desire to kill is morally wrong. It's also a sign that you may have deeper emotional or psychological issues than even you realize, I suggest an evaluation by a trained professional, which you'll receive during the application process.

That being said, those with a true desire to kill (And not those who simply say they do on the internet to sound tough) make the best soldiers, they were the one in ten during WWI that were actually firing their rifles at the Germans (or Allies), they are the ones who become decorated marksmen, war heroes, and get action flicks made about them.

In conclusion, there is likely something wrong with you, but turning that something towards what can debatably be called for the greater good is probably one of the better ways to harness such a disability.
 

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Well, you'll be disappointed. It has been said: Wars are hours of boredom mixed with moments of excitement. (I've always wanted to use that quote) So your ''dream'' of killing people and blowing shit up will be more like a long, slow nightmare. Watch Jarhead if you want to know what I mean.

OT: yes, I do think this is morally iffy. I like to think that the army has been called to life not to blow shit up, but to protect, preserve and defend the country from foreign invaders, peacefuly if they can and voilently if they must.
 

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It's funny because most of the people who go in with that mentality don't last very long in combat, let alone basic training.