It's not a great way to make someone like you, but considering something you want more important than something someone else wants is actually "acting human".Gypsyssilver said:The "nice guy" that you mentioned in your first point is the type of guy who ISN'T looking for those signals. She's backing away, wanting the conversation to end, but he's not playing ball. He keeps talking to her because what he wants is more important than what she wants. That's not a great way to make someone like you.
It also, depending on the context may be "acting confident" as opposed to the meek and timid guy who will shy away the moment there's a hint of disinterest.
I've seen people conflate the two, though. Some might have been trolls, in some cases it might have been an hones mistake, and in other some cases just a case of them being conditioned to believe they actually are the same thing.DANGER- MUST SILENCE said:I don't think I've ever seen non-trolls rag on someone on the internet just for lamenting about unrequited love. I've only seen people rag on people who blame women for their unrequited love.
I'm going to (again) jump on the bandwagon of the people wondering if that's an American thing, actually...And that's the point that really undermines your whole post. It's not that "Nice Guys" are unhappy. It's not that "Nice Guys" are doing it wrong. It's that "Nice Guys" think they are entitled to love, and if they aren't getting it, then it must be the fault of someone else.
I'm half-inclined to suggest a friendly wager on this one, but I'm incredibly unlikely to actually make such a thread, seeing as I'm a tad too old and wise to run into such a situation...then again, stranger things have happened, life's always full of surprises.Make a thread about how bummed you are that a girl you like doesn't like you back, and I'm fairly sure the worst that will happen is that your thread will be forgotten because no one will care.
Thing is, at least around here, these terms have not been tossed about by guys lamenting unrequited love, but in the majority of cases, by people making threads "Hey, how about those nice guys whining about friendzone", "Is friendzone a thing?" (a bit like this thread), and sometimes a reactionary "Stop bashing" thread. Even reading though the Advice Forum, where such a predicament ("girl trouble") happens rather often, I literally don't remember any NiceGuy™ whining about having been friendzoned.But the moment you start tossing around terms like "friendzoned" or claiming that women only like bad guys, that's when you're going to start getting some ire.