saw a couple guys mention it so i'll just say a tip is earned not assumed, if you do a good job you will get one if you don't you won't, simple as
Bullshit.Crazy Zaul said:Generally we don't really do work. Most people are on benefits.
I find it interesting that you call them "bad eggs". I would just call them people who don't want to work themselves to death all hours of the day. I expect there are reasons other than working hours.MelasZepheos said:I hold myself to my father's work ethic as well. Unfortunately, being only just starting on the laddr of work I don't have enough to keep me at work this long, but on the days when I do I'm in by 8 and leaving gone 7. Everyone that I see at my office is prepared to and does work simliar hours. I've worked in three offices and two labour intensive factories so far, and aside from one or two bad eggs I haven't seen anyone who isn't prepared to work like that.
It's the same in the us, but in order to buy the things we want but we have to work longer since I think we're paid less.Wadders said:Bullshit.Crazy Zaul said:Generally we don't really do work. Most people are on benefits.
Moving on, we (the UK) seem to have people who have a "live for the weekend type attitude" and don't really see their job as anything other than a means to get money for spending on stuff they need, like bills, and want, like beer.
Then there are others, who seem to live to work, and will take every second of overtime offered to them, god knows what drives them on.
Those are just 2 types of people I've come across, I think we have a mix of work ethics but overall most people work pretty hard to bring home the bacon. I'm not sure how all that compares to a US work ethic though. I'd just say less people live for their work perhaps, preferring to leave it at work and not bring it home.
Is it? I am british, I dont think its "douchey". If they provide a particularly fantastic service then yes, maybe. But being compulsary, thats ridiculous. It becomes meaningless and just another thing for companies to exploit, like companies who include the tip in your bill without telling you and then you tip ontop of that tip or companies that use tipping as a reason to pay their employees less. Do I want to be the reason for uncertainty between paycheques because you might not have enough tips this month? No, I want you to be paid a livable wage for doing the work that the company that employs you gets much more money out of and being paid the occassional tip on top of that if you work hard thus promoting hard work.AnarchistFish said:Errr, it's considered douchey not to give a tip.Matthew94 said:Yeah, just look at their tipping culture.
In the UK: People give good service and a tip is a nice bonus
In the US: You have to give a tip and not doing so is used as an insult and you will probably get your food spit in if you return.
Because that's how people make their living over here. They're paid like $2 an hour and expect to make it up through tips. Yes it's shit, but don't take it out on the servers.oddball250 said:Thats a thing i dont understand. if i go on holiday to a contry im never going to beable to return to why the hell should i tip
I agree with this chap on the subject. I will only tip someone if they go above and beyond what they are already paid to do.Kinguendo said:Is it? I am british, I dont think its "douchey". If they provide a particularly fantastic service then yes, maybe. But being compulsary, thats ridiculous. It becomes meaningless and just another thing for companies to exploit, like companies who include the tip in your bill without telling you and then you tip ontop of that tip or companies that use tipping as a reason to pay their employees less. Do I want to be the reason for uncertainty between paycheques because you might not have enough tips this month? No, I want you to be paid a livable wage for doing the work that the company that employs you gets much more money out of and being paid the occassional tip on top of that if you work hard thus promoting hard work.AnarchistFish said:Errr, it's considered douchey not to give a tip.Matthew94 said:Yeah, just look at their tipping culture.
In the UK: People give good service and a tip is a nice bonus
In the US: You have to give a tip and not doing so is used as an insult and you will probably get your food spit in if you return.
Que?Wadderz said:The UK has been predominantly a socialist country for some time
I'm just going to quote you all, a thread on tipping is a lot more interesting hahaFlames66 said:I agree with this chap on the subject. I will only tip someone if they go above and beyond what they are already paid to do.Kinguendo said:Is it? I am british, I dont think its "douchey". If they provide a particularly fantastic service then yes, maybe. But being compulsary, thats ridiculous. It becomes meaningless and just another thing for companies to exploit, like companies who include the tip in your bill without telling you and then you tip ontop of that tip or companies that use tipping as a reason to pay their employees less. Do I want to be the reason for uncertainty between paycheques because you might not have enough tips this month? No, I want you to be paid a livable wage for doing the work that the company that employs you gets much more money out of and being paid the occassional tip on top of that if you work hard thus promoting hard work.AnarchistFish said:Errr, it's considered douchey not to give a tip.Matthew94 said:Yeah, just look at their tipping culture.
In the UK: People give good service and a tip is a nice bonus
In the US: You have to give a tip and not doing so is used as an insult and you will probably get your food spit in if you return.