It Doesn't Matter

[bificommander]

I suppose what counts as good natured fun riffing and nitpicking is whether I'm having fun as the viewer. With Cinema Sins I'm not, and that's mostly down to somewhat uninspired comedy writing, which feels less like jokes and more like lists of alleged mistakes. The purpose of these movie criticisms is to provide entertainment whilst educating me on the flaws, but Cinema Sins does neither, which leads me to conclude that he has achieved nothing beyond nitpicking.

I agree that Spoony's most recent reviews have felt a little like this too, but generally, the fun is to be had in how upset Spoony gets, or in how cleverly Spoony can mock the problem - which was certainly the case in his older reviews.

Well, I guess it comes down to a matter of personal taste then. I am having fun with it. It's a different style of comedy than a Spoony or ThatGuyWithTheGlasses style review, which generally have more time for a build-up or dressing up of the jokes about a particular odd thing in a movie. But I find the rapid-fire nature of the various weird things, plus the way he describes some of the odd things, funny enough in their own right. Others may not find it witty. So it goes.

 

[Thespian]

That's awesome. Thanks for the link. The way he conveys his point there is really excellent.

Oh yes. Tasteful understated nerdrage is the best thing to come out of the Mass Effect 3 ending debacle. I watch it whenever I feel frustrated by the ending
The section of the video where he talks about narrative coherence really applies to what Bob is saying here. Nitpicks are only appropriate if a) the genre is appropriate and b) they get in the way of the plot enough to hinder your enjoyment of the piece in the moment.

 

[wearesoneutralthatithurts]

Bob I have to say this article really felt like a cloaked attempt to voice your dislike of CinemaSins. And a really misguided one at that.

Your points would all, of course, be totally valid if "Everything Wrong with _________ in three minutes" was a legitimate review show. It isn't. It is a video series that pokes fun at fridge logic, by definition. I'm positive that those who make the videos generally like the movie because, y'know, you'd have to in order to notice everything.

Thanks for stating what i thought.
It seems like a kind of "my kind of criticism is right, your is bad and cynical and wäähähä i dont like it"

sight. i live nitpicking. I even love nitpicking the shit out of movies and games BECAUSE I LOVE THEM.
Its like a bromancy lovely word-fight which culminates into calling someone funny names and teasing them for little fails they made-but under friends, so for other people it might look more serious than it actually is.. so i love nitpicking, I don't know why but its fun to me and I ha a hellot of fun watching these moviesins-videos, more than the honest trailers-but maybe because the honest trailers aren't so over the top (lapdances anyone?)

and well, it seems that mr. bob has a problem with this show and I really don't understand why-I think it is clearly satirical while its poking fun at the moves-and it shows the amber in the ashes.

so because i have no clue what his(well not only bobs... if I read this thread, there are many users which say "me too dont like".) problem is, i will make assumptions a lot.^^ and because my English is crap be prepared for ghibberish.


i like deconstruction and picking apart (of movies, games, even books) and having my disbelief-its the kind of person I am, i tend to see every little shit nobody sees-this kills immersion but I am very susceptible for that.
I´m used to it. after times I began to actually like to spot this things but I think most people don't -and maybe the problem is not that people like the movie-sin-guy or me are better in spotting plot-holes and fails, its the problem that we like to tell people about it, we nag and babble and-well annoy the ones who want to watch the movie. (but nobody has to see the youtube-videos, you can shut them by closing the window.)

it seems to me that these people might feel that this nitpicking takes the fun out of their experience and maybe they transfer their feelings toward nitpicking on other. Maybe they think that, because the nitpicking would kill their experience, ours must be awful?)


i dont know, maybe bob can explain.

but I love moviesins, so thanks for mentioning the videos, this made my night a little bit happier- I just had fun because of that.
I can see movies I couldn't see before and laugh about them getting torn apart. I can have fun out of them. and i could see parts of inception. \o/
(I cant see it.. i cant stand it-not because of the movie, because of the stupid idea of those DURGHS to use the Edith piaf song on this movie. I HATE THEM. i´d love to see this movie but i cant because some derp chooses this one song out of a bazillion of songs and i bet my ass there were a thousand songs which ould have fit in better than "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien".. They could, well, aehm, actually make ALL of their Film-music on their own *gnargh.
okay, my mother could ´ve chosen another one for her burial.. the ****. sometimes i hate my family..

grm, my day just got worse. i am such an idiot^^



p.s:captcha: bratwurst und sauerkraut: duh, that thing knows what i ve eaten yesterday. okay,it was a vegan bratwurst and fried sauerkraut(tasty!) but a creepingly good guess.

 

[Mzuark]

I think it's a bad sign that everyone is trying to riff movies now. It's almost as if it's impossible to just watch and, God forbid, enjoy something these days. I know that nothing's perfect, but that doesn't mean that you need to dedicate so much time to ragging on something with nitpicks, which often times are just hyperbole, strawmen and downright lies. The RLM reviews of the prequels come to mind, yeah they make some good points. But if you watch them to completetion, then more a few of the so called "flawless critiscisms" are exaggerations or lies.

But of course, fans just like to say "It's just comedy"...until they make a 'good' point, then all of the sudden it's a genius review.

This, I think, sums up the problem with CinemaSins just fine.
http://www.film.com/movies/jurassic-park-flaws

 

[Drake the Dragonheart]

Ironically bob, you introduced me to both honest trailers and Cinema Sins, both of which I enjoy. So thanks for that. That's right, I said I enjoy both honest trailers and cinema sins 'everything wrong with x movie in y minutes" videos. Does either make me feel any different about the movie in question? no.