it can't get much bigger then the 'alien invasion' for the avengers?Yahtzee Croshaw said:
lol, poor, miss-informed Yahzee.
i have three words for you
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:3 you have absolutely no idea just how high the bar can yet be raised
It's About Characters, Stupid
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lol, poor, miss-informed Yahzee.
i have three words for you
The
Infinity
Gauntlet
:3 you have absolutely no idea just how high the bar can yet be raised
I think this is a point which Yahtzee in his infinite wisdom saw not to raise (or for whatever reason just left it out) but one which is definitely relevant. I know it's not really how they did it in your example of the Punisher (apologies if that's wrong, I haven't seen it in quite some time) but another reason the writers feel the need to include some huge, universe-threatening crisis is because only that can justify the hero's actions, looked at from that critical perspective. They think to themselves "right, we want a hero, but we know that in the age of cynicism we can't get away with 'super grand awesome mr perfect' but also we'll be damned if we put in the effort to actually give our hero a proper character arc with him overcoming his own personal struggles and facing issues that he would believably have to face. So instead we'll give him a few offscreen implied civilian casualties, and then justify that by making the enemy the great universe-eating monsters of darkness".gardian06 said:
Ok, maybe that's a little excessive; there are things like the Toby Maguire Spiderman movies (please don't hurt me, I'm just trying to make a point) where, whether or not you think they did a good job, it does seem pretty clear to me that they were making an effort to give him personal challenges to overcome, but for every case of making that effort, there's ten where they simply toss any but the most token character development out the window and replace it with 'offscreen implied civilian casualties yadda yadda yadda'.
I guess what I'm trying to say is good point, well made
Generalizing superheroes now?
You've had your fair share of dethroning moments of suck, Yahtzee, but I never thought you'd go and piss on something so objectively kickass as Justice League.
You've had your fair share of dethroning moments of suck, Yahtzee, but I never thought you'd go and piss on something so objectively kickass as Justice League.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.Cid SilverWing said:
OT: Generally prefer Marvel over DC for that exact reason - the people the stories are about are more fleshed out than the side characters.
Not to mention the fact that Joss Whedon has said that they won't raise the stakes in the traditional sense for Avengers 2. It's supposed to be smaller scale and more personal than the first film.Lunar Templar said:
Blast, double-ninja'd... Another word, though: Thanos.MrFalconfly said:
Also, I really respect Whedon for not wanting to just use the stuff that has already worked.
Yahtzee, why do you have to give us these ridiculously nice ideas that are so unlikely to see the light of day? Why? I want that Legion of Doom series now; and unfortunately something tells me that it's just not exactly what DC are likely to do... Oh well. We'll figure something out, I guess.
Focused on the characters?
Maybe a game where Jill is recruited to a government special ops due the fact she was the only one left with super powers after RE 5. She is sent to Colombia to deal with the FARCS (or mexican Drug Lords, or anything like that). At the same time she has to deal with heavy PTSD from her time with Wesker (she dyes her hair brown, since it has never returned to normal). In the mission she comes across a new kind of drug, that would lead the users to a massive psychotic spree in a year or two after its consumption (like an intelligent crimson head). This "improved" cocaine is to be sent to rich countries as a latent terrorist attack.
Maybe a game where Jill is recruited to a government special ops due the fact she was the only one left with super powers after RE 5. She is sent to Colombia to deal with the FARCS (or mexican Drug Lords, or anything like that). At the same time she has to deal with heavy PTSD from her time with Wesker (she dyes her hair brown, since it has never returned to normal). In the mission she comes across a new kind of drug, that would lead the users to a massive psychotic spree in a year or two after its consumption (like an intelligent crimson head). This "improved" cocaine is to be sent to rich countries as a latent terrorist attack.
Haha, that's funny, I saw that episode like 2 hours ago. But yeah, it was a good one. The Justice League animated series annoys me though, because their powers are so insanely variable. Such as Flash, one episode he moves at the speed of light (Sinistro actually says "My beams are as fast as you, the speed of light!") while in another he seems to struggle to catch up with a large van... And Superman.. He keeps getting knocked out by much weaker foes, and seems to be hurt by normal bullets and lasers. Isn't he supposed to be completely invulnerable to such things under a yellow sun? Can anyone explain to me why this is?Credossuck said:
Anyway, I'd like to see a sort of aftermath movie, with the hero having finally defeated his nemesis somehow, and how they cope with life afterwards. Just thought about it listening to Gav's Joker's Song just now, with the line "You're the Yin to my Yang" which I thought was right, so what would he do if he actually managed his mission of cleaning up Gotham? Just my 2 cents.
He's Right DCs villains outshine their hero to the point that's not even funny, and Marvel villains are like DC hero's, stale, bland and no personality. In fact any villain that has a personality usually ends up becoming a hero in the Marvel U.
It symbolizes that not all villains symbolize anything or, consequently, that someone can make a point about anything symbolizing something at one point or another. I mean, we like to have our comic book mythology deep and neat, but have we forgotten that the Batman roster includes this?RobfromtheGulag said:
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And, do we all agree that DC trying to out-Marvel Marvel with their Justice League movie is, in general, a bad move?
You could very easily over analyze nearly any piece of fiction. Especially, when it comes to sci-fi or horror. Do you really take games so seriously that you can't appreciate them? Quit acting like it's supposed to be Shakespeare. I mean why are you even playing games if you're just going to be that cynical? When it comes to sci-fi and horror, the point of the story is never in the details.
In regards to your complaint about Superheroes. What would be the point if the villian didn't threaten the world or an entire city? How would they be "super" heroes if all they did was stop a simple mugging or something any normal cop could prevent? I mean you complain about certain kinds of fiction following a similar suit, when that suit is very well the point of said fiction.
In regards to your complaint about Superheroes. What would be the point if the villian didn't threaten the world or an entire city? How would they be "super" heroes if all they did was stop a simple mugging or something any normal cop could prevent? I mean you complain about certain kinds of fiction following a similar suit, when that suit is very well the point of said fiction.
Dude, did you just now watch Yahtzee's reviews of the Arkham games? He said he LOVED Batman, like everyone else on the Internet, possibly the most beloved fictional concept more than Firefly.Combine Rustler said:
Good god, I hope not! The Assassin's are about freedom yeah, but Joker only cares about his own freedom. To kill. Batman could enforce order on everyone, but he doesn't. He believes in people's inherent goodness and willingness to do right. He does what he does so no one else suffers.Frostbite3789 said:
Yathzee! Don't give people like DC ideas like that!
They have the potential to take extremely awesome ideas like the Legion of Doom and completely screw it up!
They have the potential to take extremely awesome ideas like the Legion of Doom and completely screw it up!
C'mon, you really think they will risk 150 million on anything less than a sure thing? It'll be an Avengers clone, poorly done. As poorly done as Green Lantern was a cheap clone of Iron Man (seriously, Green lantern syncs up with Iron Man in so many ways its almost scary).
What happened to the kind of villain that would convince the hero to switch sides with a well thought out, but simple speech. Make some of the good guys the villains.
What happened to the kind of villain that would convince the hero to switch sides with a well thought out, but simple speech. Make some of the good guys the villains.
The Legion of Doom story sounds interesting. "The world is filling up with extraordinary people.", said Nick Fury, and sooner or later the ones on the other side are going to get together. Show these pseudogods just how human they are...
to at dissenters, to make them obey. My eyes shifted focus, I couldn't see straight, and my vision blurred for everything except the video. It's insidiously in my head. If I were strapped to a chair, with this blaring in my eyes and ears, I don't think I am a strong enough person to defend against that. I'd be giving up the lives or secrets of the ones I hold most dear just for them to kill me and make it stop. Holy crap. You have to warn a guy about that stuff, man! I'm not lying about the eye parts, either. That actually happened.
What...was that? I feel like that's something that would play on repeat, as some kind of pyschotropic torture propaganda film. One of those things psychotic leaders playshrekfan246 said:
So, basically, you're saying it was this:BehattedWanderer said:
And there's a reason I have a gif from that music video as my avatar.
Her other music videos are just as wacky, too. It's pretty interesting, to tell the truth. Like I said in another thread earlier, I don't often listen to J-Pop, but when I do, it's Kyary Pamyu Pamyu.
Yes, but hers is worse, much more of an assault, rather than a suggestion. Though, admittedly, the Fashion monster one wasn't as bad. But it, candy candy, and Tsukematsukeru gave me one distinct feeling: I pity the Japanese Alice, for her Wonderland is a far stranger place than I should like to visit, and if this is what she felt when she went through hers, then I admire her bravery, for there was a young girl who would walk where I would dare not tread.shrekfan246 said:So, basically, you're saying it was this:BehattedWanderer said:
And there's a reason I have a gif from that music video as my avatar.
Her other music videos are just as wacky, too. It's pretty interesting, to tell the truth. Like I said in another thread earlier, I don't often listen to J-Pop, but when I do, it's Kyary Pamyu Pamyu.
My consolation is that I don't find it all arousing, so there's a plus. That I wonder how far down this particular rabbit hole I could go, however, is another matter.
