It's been confirmed; Xbox one wil block used games.

[maninahat]

Here is what worries me: now that xbox announced it, is there now a danger that Sony will as well? It seems beneficial in the short run to offer a better service (one that lets you freely play 2nd hand games) and attracting more customers, but I can imagine Sony as seeing this as an opportunity to pilot their own anti-2nd hand policy, knowing that they won't lose customers to xbox.

 

[thiosk]

There is really no reason at all not to just use steam.

 

[Gothproxy]

EDIT 2: IT'S CONFIRMED NO FEE STRAIGHT FROM MICROSOFT. the article you posted has been debunked, put down your pitchforks lads.

And where did you find out this info? Post a link? (a reliable link?)

eited my post sorry forgot to add link lol

That's cool. I read the article and it only makes mention that Microsoft had "no confirmation" on the subject. Also, thanks to Jim Sterling, I saw the twitter posts from "Microsoft support" that said there will be NO fees. But that was at least 9 hours ago and has not been confirmed or denied that the twitter account is legit or if the tweet was Microsoft's official stand. There is too much smoke-and-mirrors play going on here that Microsoft could easily clear up....but they haven't. Why not? Are they testing the waters to see what gamers think of the idea? Could be (but that would be putting a whole lot into the idea that they would do such a thing as test the waters), but I think not.

To be honest, I don't think Microsoft themselves know what they are going to do about used games for the Xbox One. As I said in my original reply we'll just have to see, but if things stand as they are now, I'm recommending people stay away (personally, not at my job...which I have to do what I'm told....which is usually ok....usually) =D

 

[LT Cannibal 68]

EDIT 2: IT'S CONFIRMED NO FEE STRAIGHT FROM MICROSOFT. the article you posted has been debunked, put down your pitchforks lads.

And where did you find out this info? Post a link? (a reliable link?)

eited my post sorry forgot to add link lol

That's cool. I read the article and it only makes mention that Microsoft had "no confirmation" on the subject. Also, thanks to Jim Sterling, I saw the twitter posts from "Microsoft support" that said there will be NO fees. But that was at least 9 hours ago and has not been confirmed or denied that the twitter account is legit or if the tweet was Microsoft's official stand. There is too much smoke-and-mirrors play going on here that Microsoft could easily clear up....but they haven't. Why not? Are they testing the waters to see what gamers think of the idea? Could be (but that would be putting a whole lot into the idea that they would do such a thing as test the waters), but I think not.

To be honest, I don't think Microsoft themselves know what they are going to do about used games for the Xbox One. As I said in my original reply we'll just have to see, but if things stand as they are now, I'm recommending people stay away (personally, not at my job...which I have to do what I'm told....which is usually ok....usually) =D

after the monsoon of shit they got i'm pretty sure they'll back off on the idea of the fee. A good way to implement the fee however would be so that the fee only applies for users who want to play off the hdd, that i can agree with.

 

[Happiness Assassin]

I just wanna point out that this happened:

Spoiler: Sony and Microsoft's stocks.

And as for blocking used games? And really, their entire reveal? Sony's won this generation, hands fucking down.

And I just wanna point out two things:

1. The change in Microsoft stock was .19% or in practical terms, nothing. That change is so minuscule that it is more likely attributed to market fluctuations than anything relating to video games.

2. Sony stock took off for a completely different reason. It has to do with rumors of them spinning off their movie and music divisions. If you want to know more, just google Sony or Dan Loeb for that matter.

People seem to forget that the video games industry is relatively small compared to what these respective companies are actually worth. The video games industry has little to no effect on the stock prices of these companies.

OT: That rumor has been proven false from a variety of sources provided and even the link in the OP is sketchy on the issue.

 

[Altorin]

This makes no sense whatsoever. Not even to stem used game sales. There is now nothing stopping people from buying the game used paying the fee then returning for a full refund. What I think will happen is brick and mortar games store will drop the full refund to a 75% refund. This will essentially mean that even with new games the same price as used they will still be 50% cheaper and not a cent of that will go to developers.

No one will build games for it because the devs will get paid for 1 copy that then is installed on 50 consoles. there is no way they could make a profit.

the "fee" in this case is the full price of the game, and gamestop will probably not stock used Xbone games, if they don't boycott the system entirely

I just wanna point out that this happened:

Spoiler: Sony and Microsoft's stocks.

And as for blocking used games? And really, their entire reveal? Sony's won this generation, hands fucking down.

And I just wanna point out two things:

1. The change in Microsoft stock was .19% or in practical terms, nothing. That change is so minuscule that it is more likely attributed to market fluctuations than anything relating to video games.

2. Sony stock took off for a completely different reason. It has to do with rumors of them spinning off their movie and music divisions. If you want to know more, just google Sony or Dan Loeb for that matter.

People seem to forget that the video games industry is relatively small compared to what these respective companies are actually worth. The video games industry has little to no effect on the stock prices of these companies.

OT: That rumor has been proven false from a variety of sources provided and even the link in the OP is sketchy on the issue.

Miniscule or not, having a stock dip at all when you announce something isn't good - ideally their stock should have risen, not fallen.

 

[loa]

They should've called it dreamcast 2 except that the dreamcast was actually awesome.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Well, it's not necessarily Always-Online, which is something even the most uninformed members of the gaming masses would be annoyed about, but for those who care about their freedoms, restricting used games is a pretty grave decision.

EDIT: Oh, damn they still have some common sense after all. I guess I'm down to "encouraging and making more available, always-online components" as the worst offence the X1 can offer.

 

[TIMESWORDSMAN]

Well, still don't pay as much as full retail, and it looks like I can just borrow a disk from a friend and have the game forever. I can see this working.

Granted, the new Xbox is not on my list of things that make me go "eeeeeeooooooooYOW!". This list is is very short, and consists mostly of space missions, a Lancia Stratos Zero, and Tali. So I probably won't be hanging out outside Kmart to get one.

...Maybe I can get one used?

 

[kickyourass]

The article is really vague and kinda second hand with its information so I'm a bit hesitant to believe it, but if this is true then there's no way in hell I'm buying this console, that is complete and utter horseshit I honestly do not know how it could be seen as otherwise.

 

[leeprice133]

Well, I think I should thank Microsoft for making my next-gen console purchasing decision much, much easier. With only the Playstation 4 and WiiU to think about, the debate for system I should get has just been moved into which system I should get first (I always get two each generation), which will largely be based on what Nintendo's release schedule is for first-party titles on WiiU. Still, something tells me I should be thinking about how soon I want a PS4.

I'm not sure I think of the WiiU is a next-generation console - technically it seems to be only slightly beyond the 360 and PS3. Seems more like Nintendo have only just fully joined the current gen.

 

[mokes310]

No thanks, this was a deal-breaker for me. Huge fan of the 360, but this will push me back into the Sony camp...so long as Sony doesn't pull some 11th hour shenanigans and decide to go with some form of draconian DRM system.

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

Well now that I won't be playing the new xbox maybe i'll try other activities, I heard a lot of good thing's about that marijawana.

 

[StormShaun]

Urrrrg.
Well ... it seems that I'm not going to buy any of the next gen consoles.

Well money is something I don't have.
And all the negatives about the next gen too.
I'm going to be fine with my good ol' computer and Xbox360/PS3/Wii.

Back onto topic, yeah this isn't really good ... at all.
I mean, I use steam all the time but that isn't as bad as the Xbox One.
... so yeah I'm going to see all of this go downhill.

But I'll wait before I decide my ultimate opinion. These might just be all rumors created in all this mischief which I am sure is happening all over the internet.
And when I checked IGN it seemed a bit TOO positive about the new Xbox over there ... suspicious.

So Sony ... Microsoft ... [sub]Nintendo[/sub] please show me showing that will MAKE me buy your consoles. (Excluding kidnapping, mugging and robbery)

 

[Subscriptism]

If this is true then Microsoft have just shot themselves in the foot. The retailers will hate them now and so will the audience. They have just killed themselves in the game market if the PS4 doesn't have this shit attached. I will certainly not be buying a Xbox One.

I also can't believe they made such a fucking stupid move.

 

[mysecondlife]

Yeah but some people are going to buy it, not knowing any better. People can be stupid with their money, not knowing what they're getting.

Bitching about used games will come after.

 

[Sonicron]

Add this piece of news to the growing pile of bullshit that's shaping up to be the new 'Big 3' console generation, and I know exactly which device I'm looking forward to the most at this point:
The Piston.

 

[Candidus]

Being that I'm a PC gamer who's dealt with the same restrictions on both physical and digital purchases for years, I don't really care. If the developers and publishers are the ones getting the lion's share of this `second hand fee`, then I actually support it.

That being said, I'm not interested in the Xbox One. I'm not a US citizen. 343i did a totally forgettable job with the console's flagship series, without which there's nothing of note exclusive to it. I'm not interested in a jack-of-all multimedia device, and I resent the mere presence of Kinect.

Loads of great reasons to pass on the Xbox One without bothering to mention the fading luxury of used games.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Whoo, looks like PS4 is going to get a boost in sales by this announcement. haha

Nah they will do the same. This has been a long time coming.

Ultimately, the blame lies on Gamestop, Game, Gamestation etc. who refused to let the pub's in on the 2nd hand market. Now they will pay the price for their greed.

Right and Paramount should get a cut when I sell a DVD?

The blame lies on greedy publishers who want to get paid for used sales. If any blame lies on Gamestop it's because they sat on their thumbs and watched this happen on a smaller scale with online passes. Even now they have an ad for Xbox One on their website.

I blame all the PC gamers who jumped on Steam because they were easily bribed with cheap games and set an example to other companies who now want in on it.

Not only that but we (myself included) praise Valve at every opportunity. It's no wonder Microsoft thought this could work. Also to blame:

If the developers and publishers are the ones getting the lion's share of this `second hand fee`, then I actually support it.

Comments like this feed the publishers greed. They have no right to money from second hand sales but these people will support them finding a way to get it anyway.

 

[EstrogenicMuscle]

Yeah but some people are going to buy it, not knowing any better. People can be stupid with their money, not knowing what they're getting.

Bitching about used games will come after.

It's going to be an amusing state of affairs.

Much of the people who actually end up buying will be people who don't know. And then Microsoft will be flooded with the few people who did buy complaining about the system.

Though I don't think it is that many people who will buy to begin with. Considering the sales of the PS Vita and Wii U. If the Wii U and PS Vita have struggled to sell a few million units, I doubt that the XBOX One will have an easy time doing the same.