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I didn't say it would be someone else's term, I'd expect him to go for another than expand his current one, but yeah.
How do you all say these things, watch them never come to fruition, but never feel any doubt about it?
No, Donald Trump is not going to have a third presidential term, he's not going to abolish elections and appoint himself king, nothing like any of that has any chance of happening.
No, Donald Trump is not going to have a third presidential term, he's not going to abolish elections and appoint himself king, nothing like any of that has any chance of happening.
they also said he wouldn’t try to overturn an electoral defeat and he tried to do exactly that.
Pretty much al predictions about Trump came true. If Trump won’t end up taking further attempts to take out American democracy it’s because he’ll have died of old age
Why assume Trump emulates Orban and Vlad in all matters but that he alone would respect democracy, even after already having tried a coup when democracy stood in his way. It’s a weird assumption
I would request you remember this into the future, and when nothing goes the way you predict, know that it is because you are wrong about the past and present as well.
like I said about every prediction about Trump was proven correct in the past. There’s little reason to assume this pattern will change.
I’m plenty of confident to be proven right in the future exactly because predictions about Trump always came true in the past.
the vermin openly scheming with the Russians and just as open hostility against Europe just adds to the repeated pattern of disgust toward democracy, if not western civilization as a whole.
The pattern isn't going to change, the problem is that you're wrong about everything, and live in a contrived fantasy world.
Trump tried to use the established legal means to contest an election, means that are there to be used. He is in a second term, there are no legal means to challenge for a third, so there's nothing to happen but an uncontested transfer of power. When that inevitably happens, come back and declare that you're a complete idiot.
Ahhhh. Slates of fake electors, calling state governors and telling them not to certify the results or find extra votes, slandering election workers, encouraging the VP to block certification-- that's how its supposed to happen, then?
There is one thing you might be overlooking.
Trump mostly cares about himself, so if Trump is not a candidate for election, he may do pretty much nothing. In a sense, a new Republican candidate losing could even be attractive to him: because it potentially leaves him as the main powerbroker for the party, and implicitly can make him look better ("If I'd have run, we'd have won!"). And I think even Trump might decide trying to fiddle himself a third term would be a step too far.
I don't find it likely that Trump gets a third term. He is the most unpopular president in a century and that does count the Republicans and even disillusionised MAGA as well. They support him as long as he still has power but would very much like to replace him with someone less corrupt, more reliable who actually cares about their issues.
Tump and those for whom he is the only avenue of power will likely start a couple of test balloons about a third term. But when none of them get traction, they will give it up. That is my prediction.
Tump and those for whom he is the only avenue of power will likely start a couple of test balloons about a third term. But when none of them get traction, they will give it up. That is my prediction.
I'd have thought they'd have gone well beyond having a free and fair election if he was going to term 3. They'll test the waters, but could go either way, once you've tried a fascist coup, sorta anything goes.
I think this is a reasonable notion, but only unreasonable people think there was an attempted fascist coup to begin with.
Maybe not fascist, but I'm sympathetic to the argument that was an attempted coup.
At minimum, there was a deliberate and wide-ranging strategy to discredit the election by the President and his party. Certain elements - firing up a mob and directing it at Congress, phoning up states to demand they rig the result in the incumbent President's favour, claiming the VP could refuse to certify the election, etc. were credible attempts to obfuscate, obstruct or pervert the election result. Those are enough to make claims of a coup credible, even if a weak one.
Weirdly, I was reading an article about renewable water, and it just occurred to me that nothing the Republicans do is sustainable over the long run. The way many do policy isn't sustainable in the long run; the way they market themselves and campaign will not be sustained in the future unless it's by someone who acts like a Republican and prioritizes short-term gains. The general tariffs led to wars and famines at worst and shortages for both sides at best. I would argue the Democrats would have tried to coup Maduro but wouldn't try to take his oil and rare earths or be as brazen about it and would follow international law, which is much more sustainable than unilateral action. The application of the Monroe Doctrine in such a way isn't sustainable because it requires the cooperation of various countries in South America.
In every field, the Republicans have picked the short-term option over the sustainable option. We will if we haven't already hit peak oil; natural gas is next, alongside uranium/non-thorium fission nuclear energy. They still operate like it's the 20th century. "We're building/doing stuff fast, consequences be damned" is the doctrine of the Republicans.
In every field, the Republicans have picked the short-term option over the sustainable option. We will if we haven't already hit peak oil; natural gas is next, alongside uranium/non-thorium fission nuclear energy. They still operate like it's the 20th century. "We're building/doing stuff fast, consequences be damned" is the doctrine of the Republicans.
It’s fairly logical when you consider Trump is old and doesn’t care for anything but himself. If his policies only “work” in the short run but are unsustainable then he can live for the short term benefits and be dead when the policies become unable to be sustained
that and most Trump era republicans are loyal only to big money. The state getting damaged isnt really a problem as long as big business gets it’s due. It might even be considered a benefit since the spychotic ideology fashionable among the business elite is that they should be elevated above the state.
Certainly, yes, and some of it isn't even going to work short-term. You could say they pick soundbites over sustainable options.
But there are ways to stay rich for the upper class with bread crumbs and circuses; they don't have to ban porn, VPNs, and who knows what else. They don't have to make nearly every white collar new graduate jobless or underemployed, or make employment as precarious, and force down the wages of many blue-collar workers, and white collar workers like Accountants, and truck drivers. But they are pushing too hard. Even if AI succeeds, America will be a laughing stock and lose both hard and soft power if we end up being a country of homeless people with a few AI owning overlords, or even where everyone is out of work, but everyone barely survives with a small UBI to give new data to the upper class.
China won't screw over its population as much, France won't, and not even Japan will.