IndieGinge said:
Amaror said:
My main argument against Ulric is that he is Hitler and i don't like Hitler.
Just think about it:
A charismatic Leader, leading a nation of obviously racist people, aiming to clean their country of the evil foreigners.
Yeah there's not concentration camps or anything, but even in nazi germany these were built AFTER Hitler took over, not before.
The main difference here being that the Stormcloaks aren't actively racist or fascist. Are the Nords of Skyrim more xenophobic than most cultures? Yes. Is systemic oppression of those they dislike a part of their culture or real plans? Nope. The Nords of Windhelm (the worst hotbed of anti-nord sentiment) are indeed a bunch of racist douches towards Dunmer and Argonians, but Ulfric is most certainly NOT the reason for this. The man is apathetic towards the plight non-nords, not actively discriminating towards them. To use some rather extreme examples, Ulfric is not committing a holocaust, rather he's ignoring Rwanda and Darfur because he thinks finding independence is more important at the moment. I don't know what he'd do after he won Skyrim, but while I doubt he'd totally turn things around for the Elves and beast races, I doubt he'd round them up to kill them. The man does possess honor, even if he's a titanic douchebag. He's not doing anything good by ignoring them, but he's not truly evil.
Excuse me but are you suggesting here that the suppression of the jewish people is a part of german culture? I really hope not.
Anyway, do you really think Hitler somehow invented antisemitism? The hatred of jews was already present in nearly all of Europe. He used this hatred, to gain support among the populous. Which is exactly what Ulfric is doing.
My recollection i a bit shacky but isn't "Skyrim for the Nords" a moto of the stormcloaks? Gee, that sounds familiar, were did i heard that before?
You have to consider, that Hitler didn't start with the Holocaust. That came later. In the Beginning of his "Career" Hitler was a political rebel. With his initial goal to fight the supression germany faced as a result of losing the first World War.
The Holocaust and the Second World War started AFTER he had taken control of Germany and "freed it of the supression by the alliance".
Maybe they won't go the same way, but their starts are pretty much exactly the same.