It's Time To Forgive George Lucas

[Nerf Ninja]

This might have been touched upon in an earlier post but I don't have time to read them all and this just occurred to me.

You're saying we should forgive George Lucas for "raping our childhood" by making shitty toy commercials for the prequels right?

What's your justification for hating Michael Bay again?

 

[Baldry]

I never really stopped loving star wars. And I never really thought he destrooyed the series...Even though Jar jar doesn't deserve the very thought of exsistence, and well he's a good director and Im happy it existed. All of it.

 

[crimsonshrouds]

I never hated lucas and i kinda liked the prequels because of the advance in technology.

Never really understood the hate for jar jar he was annoying but hating him was pointless.

 

[icaritos]

Why do I have to forgive him? There's nothing to forgive. I actually liked the Star Wars Prequels and Indian Jones IV. *runs away before the flaming starts*

Star wars prequels i can understand, there is a lot of conflicting opinion about that specially from those who saw them before the original trilogy...

...but Indiana Jones IV, seriously?

 

[Danpascooch]

Bastard decided to run Star Wars off of a cliff

 

[NewGeekPhilosopher]

Shame my creator heroes are dead. But if George Lucas dies of stomach cancer just like J.D. Salinger, Osamu Tezuka and H.P. Lovecraft did... I'll be scared of the implications that stomach cancer kills visionaries.

The Star Wars prequels WERE my childhood - how could George Lucas have raped it if my childhood WAS watching the prequels? Lately I'm more into Star Trek TOS for its cheesiness and kitsch, but Star Wars is a freaking phenomenon despite it only spanning at its core 6 movies. I couldn't imagine what my childhood would be like without Star Wars, I mean, I wasn't old enough to figure out anime like Macross existed yet, and Star Wars was the only sci-fi around that I was old enough to watch because Alien and Terminator were too violent for a six year old.

George Lucas is a good ideas man, I'll give him that. He also created as many childhoods as he allegedly destroyed - I used to like Jar-Jar Binks even though everybody else hated him as a kid.

 

[Saerain]

I've never had a damned thing against Lucas.

I've only chastised myself for having allowed nostalgia to convince me that Episodes IV - VI were so much better.

Hayden Christensen is another matter.

 

[RDubayoo]

Ok, maybe we can forgive him, but should we forget? The next time Lucas makes a movie, we should all just march in there regardless of how low its score is on Rotten Tomatoes?

I don't think so. If the modern-day Lucas is only capable of putting out terrible movies then there's no reason for us to reward him by continuing to go out and see them.

 

[toadking07]

amen brother!

 

[Arkengetorix]

The prequels suck, and it's not just nostalgia talking. I watched both the prequels and the originals as an adult. Anyone with any sense of critical thought in regards to cinema can recognize the overall shittyness of the prequels.

In fact, I think star wars fans have a tendency to forgive a lot of the basic amateurish mistakes in the prequels simply because it is star wars. Could anyone honestly imagine people accepting such shitty film making in any other franchise?

It wasn't just Lucas who fucked up, but he is certainly the easiest to blame because star wars is his little baby *****. If anything, it seems like there isn't enough criticism against it since it's obviously not getting through to him.

I think the biggest issue with the prequels is that they are totally flat. Lucas is a good director, we have seen him do good direction. But the prequels almost seem like he want arse backwards, like whatever he learned over the years was flushed down the toilet. This is a much larger problem than the badly written story and hammy acting(which admittedly was kind of an issue with the originals as well).

 

[SkullCap]

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To be honest I never really hated the Prequels or *cough*Binks*cough*, but I think it's time this should end. Lucas your forgiven, buddy.

 

[SkullCap]

Didn't George Lucas address this sort of thing when he was interviewed on The Daily Show? You can basically tell where the fans feelings lie based on what iteration of Star Wars was out when they were under the age of 10. There's an entire generation that loves the prequels, it's just that they're currently 12-13 years old. There's even an up an coming generation that loves Clone Wars that is currently under the age of 8.

Rose tinted glasses people.

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[headphonegirl]

I cannot forgive.

The cartoon was awful.

 

[Snotnarok]

I don't hate Lucas, I hate his new films. I quit watching that new Indiana Jones after he survived a nuke in a fridge. Which I might add was the original idea for Back to the Future, the nuke would have initiated time travel. Is he to blame? Sure, do I really care what he does with his movies? No, not really.

 

[Zappa Daddy]

George Lucas's main problem is he's too big to fail. Nobody stands up to him, and I'm sure he now has the final say on what goes into a picture and what doesn't. Compare this to his more classic films like Raiders of the Lost Ark and Empire Strikes Back, where Lucas seemed to be a lot more collaborative with the scriptwriters and co-directors. Honestly, Lucas shouldn't be let within 10 miles of the scriptwriter's office. When he writes his own screenplay, you get Jar Jar Binks and The Hills/Naboo.

My biggest hope is that someone can reboot either the Star Wars or Indiana Jones series just like they did with the latest Batman and Star Trek movies. Probably won't happen until Lucas dies unfortunately.

 

[IzisviAziria]

There's nothing too forgive. I liked the prequels for what they were and I'm a devoted Star Wars fan. While he could have made Anakin less of an emo, it's not bad. Move on, people.

Plus, did you notice that the guy in RedLetterMedia can't properly say "Protagonist"? Seriously? You can't say protagonist? It's like a 9th grade word. I didn't trust his review at all after that.

I realize you posted this a few days ago... But if you are incapable of understanding the satire of the Red Letter Media review, then don't comment on it. He purposely mispronounced it, purposely used a hickish, unintelligent accent.

 

[Xrysthos]

I can forgive George Lucas, but I can't forgive the Universe for not creating a black hole to consume all copies of the Star Wars Holiday Special before I accidentally watched it. I like to think of George Lucas as one that works towards perfecting his vision, and making the movies like he originally intended with modern tools, and even though I don't approve, I respect his decision.

 

[robinkom]

In terms of what the franchise was before and after, the 1999 release of The Phantom Menace was akin to The Pope - or maybe even a messiah Himself - appearing before a congregation with a thunderous declaration of "Just kidding!"

I just about fell out of my chair laughing at that line.

I don't think George did anything wrong, I think he just did what he felt was appropriate for the kind of cinema we're presented with today. It's like when the "new kid" on the scene does something to redefine what that scene is. Then a seasoned veteran on that same scene takes up the challenge of utilizing what that redefinition is in their own work. People expect a lot from the veteran because of his past successes and how it impacted their lives at that time. So when you don't get what you were expecting, you flip your fuckin' lid over it.

I'm not a fan of the Prequel films myself, so... I simply don't watch them. Or acknowledge them for that matter. If I don't see it, it doesn't exist; Ostrich Syndrome FTW. I didn't like the wanton abuse of CG effects or some of the actors cast for certain roles. I didn't like the fact that a lot of the characters were so hard to become emotionally invested in or were simply unlikeable. Of course, that's my opinion.

Now, for the Special Editions of the original Trilogy, there's been like, what... 4 or 5 different Special Editions/Remasters since the mid-90s? I think I liked the very first Remasters of all of them, they were spruced up jut enough without going ape-shit on the CG. I've always said a balance of actual optical effects and CG effects make for the best presentation. When it's 100% CG it's too hard to believe. If you can film a scene with real actors/props/puppetry/make-up effects... you should. When a scene calls for something humanly impossible to be performed, then you go to the CG effects.

I guess I sound like one of those "elitist" Star Wars Assholes but I really was trying to sound more logical and calm about it. Probably doesn't help I have the original trilogy on Laserdisc, does it? ^_^;

 

[duckflesh]

Don't feel too bad for George. The internet may be full of people who loathe him, but if you go to a convention, you'll find that the majority of people there would probably be willing to jerk Lucas off in public at his say-so. I remember sitting in a large audience at a comic-con panel showing a preview of the animated Clone Wars movie, and feeling from the behavior and reactions of the crowd and the questions they chose to ask that I was in the strict majority for not feeling that everything George Lucas touched was gold.

 

[Outamyhead]

The only thing I didn't like besides Anakin being a whinging snot in the prequels, was fucking about with the original movies, okay the CGI for the space sequences and battles was great, but changing the noise of Obi Wan scaring the sand people away, and then changing the ghost of Anakin in ROTJ!???

Other than that he contributed a huge leap in SFX and sound recording.