Jack Thompson Threatens Utah Legislature

CosmicGrenade

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I can't wait for this to be turned into a game or even a mod for GTA4 when he goes round blowing up game stores or the 104 members of the Utah Senate and House of Representatives... or would that be better as a True Crimes: Streets OF Utah - Wrath Of Jack Thompson
 

RetiarySword

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Why can't he just die.

In fact I'll keep him alive. He reminds me of a TV character who is always trying to do stuff but fucks it up somehow. Like a really crap villan.
 

scarbunny

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CantFaketheFunk said:
scarbunny said:
Anti-Game bill is a little bit off the mark there isn't it? All the bill covered was, in your own words, "a bill that would impose harsh penalties on game retailers that claimed they would not sell mature games to minors but did anyway."

Surely this is would be a good bill to have in place, it would stop 10 year olds playing games they shouldn't, for example GTA IV, at the very least it might reduce the amount of brats I would have to put up with online.
The problem with the bill is that it would simply act as incentive for retailers to ignore ESRB ratings entirely. If they don't say they won't sell M-rated games to minors, they can't get in trouble. So it would actually serve to harm consumers by stripping one of the most valuable information tools that parents have to learn about the content in the games their children are playing - the ESRB ratings.
Then an easy way to get round this would be to add an amendment to the bill making it a legal obligation to display the rating system. The bill if handled correctly would be beneficial for the general publics perception of video games.

Im still not sure why video games aren’t subject to the same classification on movies, ie rated by the same body with the same legal implication, but also parents already understand the system and recognise what is suitable. It is something that is done in a half arsed manner in the UK, if a game has a BBFC symbol then it is illegal to sell to a person under that age.
 

CosmicGrenade

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scarbunny said:
......It is something that is done in a half arsed manner in the UK, if a game has a BBFC symbol then it is illegal to sell to a person under that age.
So they get their mother, father, older bro/sis or even a cat to buy it for them.
It's only illegal to buy something cert. whatever, but not to buy it for someone else even if they are underage.
 

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scarbunny said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
scarbunny said:
Anti-Game bill is a little bit off the mark there isn't it? All the bill covered was, in your own words, "a bill that would impose harsh penalties on game retailers that claimed they would not sell mature games to minors but did anyway."

Surely this is would be a good bill to have in place, it would stop 10 year olds playing games they shouldn't, for example GTA IV, at the very least it might reduce the amount of brats I would have to put up with online.
The problem with the bill is that it would simply act as incentive for retailers to ignore ESRB ratings entirely. If they don't say they won't sell M-rated games to minors, they can't get in trouble. So it would actually serve to harm consumers by stripping one of the most valuable information tools that parents have to learn about the content in the games their children are playing - the ESRB ratings.
Then an easy way to get round this would be to add an amendment to the bill making it a legal obligation to display the rating system. The bill if handled correctly would be beneficial for the general publics perception of video games.

Im still not sure why video games aren’t subject to the same classification on movies, ie rated by the same body with the same legal implication, but also parents already understand the system and recognise what is suitable. It is something that is done in a half arsed manner in the UK, if a game has a BBFC symbol then it is illegal to sell to a person under that age.
The are subject to exactly the same classification method, with exactly the same legal implications as movies. That is to say, none. The MPAA ratings in the USA have no legal force at all, they are a voluntary, industry applied system. Just like the ESRB ratings. Movie studios don't have to get their movies rated if they don't want to, and movie theaters and video stores don't have to follow the ratings for sales if they don't want to. Most of the theaters and stores belong to professional organizations that do require them to support the ratings, but again, it's all voluntary.

If I were a retailer and was told "if you say you won't sell M rated games to kids and do so, you'll go to jail", I'd just stop saying I won't sell M rated games to kids. Even if I display the ESRB rating system, I'd put a sign right under it saying "this store does not recognize or follow these ratings". Otherwise, there's too much chance of selling a game to a kid, even by accident or because one of your employees is an idiot. It wouldn't be worth the risk. As it stands, without threats of jail and fines, most retailers do a pretty good job (better than theaters, in fact) of following the ratings. Further legislation isn't needed, education for moronic parents is what is needed.

Oh, and a deep pit capped with steel and concrete is also needed. For idiots like Thompson, natch.
 

John Funk

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scarbunny said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
scarbunny said:
Anti-Game bill is a little bit off the mark there isn't it? All the bill covered was, in your own words, "a bill that would impose harsh penalties on game retailers that claimed they would not sell mature games to minors but did anyway."

Surely this is would be a good bill to have in place, it would stop 10 year olds playing games they shouldn't, for example GTA IV, at the very least it might reduce the amount of brats I would have to put up with online.
The problem with the bill is that it would simply act as incentive for retailers to ignore ESRB ratings entirely. If they don't say they won't sell M-rated games to minors, they can't get in trouble. So it would actually serve to harm consumers by stripping one of the most valuable information tools that parents have to learn about the content in the games their children are playing - the ESRB ratings.
Then an easy way to get round this would be to add an amendment to the bill making it a legal obligation to display the rating system. The bill if handled correctly would be beneficial for the general publics perception of video games.

Im still not sure why video games aren’t subject to the same classification on movies, ie rated by the same body with the same legal implication, but also parents already understand the system and recognise what is suitable. It is something that is done in a half arsed manner in the UK, if a game has a BBFC symbol then it is illegal to sell to a person under that age.
Such a provision would be unconstitutional. All of the other bills that attempt to do the exact same thing you suggest - legally barring the sale of these games - have been struck down as unconstitutional. In fact, the particular language of this bill - framing the matter as violating the Truth in Advertising act - was specifically designed to circumvent those constitutional concerns.
 

Chaossebba

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I feel kinda tired, so i only have one response after reading this:

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HobbesMkii said:
Wow, look at that picture of him. He uses a conventional keyboard for his laptop. Jackie, baby, take a look at that flat surface in front of the screen.
I do the same. Laptop keyboards are horrible, and the proximity to the screen makes them ergonomically unfriendly. I basically use my laptop as a minimal footprint desktop; the laptop sits on a pedastal (or is attached to an external monitor with its lid closed), and the conventional keyboard is in front with a mouse.
 

BlueInkAlchemist

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I'm sure all of the Utah legislature is shaking in their collective shoes at Jack's threats.

And let's not forget, clutching their beloved porn.
 

FalloutJack

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CantFaketheFunk said:
but met a surprising death when Utah Governor Jon Huntsman unexpectedly vetoed the bill.
That part cracks me up. Oh, we can't see it coming, right? We know that ole' bungee-boy keeps bouncing back for more, but he's a day late and a dollar short. Actually... *Checks his math* ...he's about 18 years late and $756.74 short.

Keep it up, Jack! We love to see you running the hamster wheel!
 

Doug

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I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't a MASSIVE trick. I have an image of a sane Jack Thompson, pretending to be an insane, hype-suing madman former lawyer, in the style of Borat....

Anywho...

CantFaketheFunk said:
GamePolitics [http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/05/26/jack-thompson-threatens-entire-utah-legislature-prosecution] reports that Thompson has threatened to call the wrath of the F.B.I. down on all 104 members of the Utah Senate and House of Representatives for "violating his civil rights."
Jack Thompson - Violating everyone else's rights for his own personal whims since his birth.
 

CNKFan

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On a mostly-unrelated note: "Jack Thompson and the Government of Utah" sounds almost like an awesome fantasy novel, doesn't it? The intrepid ex-lawyer braving a harsh and untamed land - kind of like Conan the Barbarian, only with less naked chicks.
I would read that in a heartbeat and wait for the feature film.
 

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rainman2203 said:
A simple /facepalm is not an adequate response to Thompson's shenanigans. Mayhaps someday he will realize the futility of what he is doing.... meh probably not.

On a side not, props to Utah for doing something cool for the first time ever.
This work?

 

Constable Narwhal

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You know, I seriously hoped he crawled under a rock and died well lets hope god drops a semi on him that or lighting just make sure we hear about it -.-
 

CyberKnight

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On the one hand, I'd rather keep him around. As the poster child for the "anti-games" movement, he's an easy target.

On the other hand, too many stupid legislators actually take him seriously that he comes dangerously close to passing his bills (seriously, this passed the House and the Senate before it was stopped?).