Japanese Composers Say Western Game Music is "Dry"

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AzureWrathHal said:
Call me crazy, but if the game play is utter shit I could care less if the music is fantastic. They honestly couldn't have picked a worse choice than monster hunter for that very reason.
What exactly do you have against Monster Hunter's gameplay? It does very well for itself so it must be doing something right.
 

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You know that article title is a lot more combative than there comments seem to be. I know "Japanese composers wish they had the budgets of their western counter parts" is not as good a title but still it seems a little more true to what is said in the article its self. other than that they can have their opinions and they might be right in general too, not true in every case but not much is.
 

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They do sort of have a point. I mean generic FPS no.587 probably has a very 'dry' soundtrack, but actual decent western games usually have a good soundtrack. Just to add to the list we have going here, I've always liked Frank Klepacki and Jeremy Soule.
 

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Some of my favorite soundtracks were from FF and Shadow of the Colossus (even though there wasn't many songs in the latter one), and they're both Japanese. I've always liked them, cause they do orchestral soundtracks extremely beautiful, the synth soundtracks are well done, and the little blip-blop soundtracks have a fun childish tone. The western soundtracks do actually sound a bit dry. Japanese game music is either more fun, childish or epic. Or all at once.
 

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Personally, I find almost all modern video game music to be "dry", east or west. For me, the move to CD-audio killed it. Before that, you had bleeps and bloops, and you had to work within the limitations to make something genuinely catchy. Then alluvasudden you can just hire an orchestra to drone on and on, and for the most part that's what's been done since the ps1 generation. Of course, I like poppy, overt melodies, so I'm biased. Just my opinion.
 

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sheic99 said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
And yet, MGS had an awesome soundtrack done by a Western composer, no?
He's two standard deviations away from the mean.
He's also massively more expensive to hire than most other composers that do videogames. Well beyond the budget of most games. Also, not all the music in MGS is done by Harry Gregson Williams.
 

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GloatingSwine said:
sheic99 said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
And yet, MGS had an awesome soundtrack done by a Western composer, no?
He's two standard deviations away from the mean.
He's also massively more expensive to hire than most other composers that do videogames. Well beyond the budget of most games. Also, not all the music in MGS is done by Harry Gregson Williams.
More importantly, this isn't a criticism of American composers. it's a criticism of big-budget American developers who have all their music done on the cheap. That Konami went and got Harry Gregson-Williams is beside the point; the point is that a lot of Western companies wouldn't have bothered.
 

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What about the orange box. Portal in patiqular... tell me Still Alive isnt lodged in your brain :)
 

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cobra_ky said:
GloatingSwine said:
sheic99 said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
And yet, MGS had an awesome soundtrack done by a Western composer, no?
He's two standard deviations away from the mean.
He's also massively more expensive to hire than most other composers that do videogames. Well beyond the budget of most games. Also, not all the music in MGS is done by Harry Gregson Williams.
More importantly, this isn't a criticism of American composers. it's a criticism of big-budget American developers who have all their music done on the cheap. That Konami went and got Harry Gregson-Williams is beside the point; the point is that a lot of Western companies wouldn't have bothered.
There's some truth in this...
 

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DrunkWithPower said:
Someone hasn't played a Madden game
Cogito said:
What about the orange box. Portal in patiqular... tell me Still Alive isnt lodged in your brain :)
minarri said:
These guys clearly have never played Elder Scrolls games.
Guys, guys, guys this is not the point. I am not going into the specific games as no one will agree all the time on any of these but they are talking about a general feel from the western fps. They are against the idea of going the hollywood direction in for game music, they are not saying all western game music is bad though.

Edit. Really is it just me that finds the article title needly combative?
 

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Pretty fair point from those composers, barely any music from Western games I consider truly memorable. In fact the first that comes to mind is Rareware's work.
 

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This is why Graeme Norgate is Godlike, thanks to him the Timesplitters and Goldeneye soundtracks are anything but "dry". YouTube examples in the spoilers, top one Goldenye bottom Timesplitters.


 

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Worsle said:
DrunkWithPower said:
Someone hasn't played a Madden game
Cogito said:
What about the orange box. Portal in patiqular... tell me Still Alive isnt lodged in your brain :)
minarri said:
These guys clearly have never played Elder Scrolls games.
Guys, guys, guys this is not the point. I am not going into the specific games as no one will agree all the time on any of these but they are talking about a general feel from the western fps. They are against the idea of going the hollywood direction in for game music, they are not saying all western game music is bad though.

Edit. Really is it just me that finds the article title needly combative?
Heh, no...its akin to staring a question "your momma..." ;)

but i see your point...in general music in Western games is just a way to tell you when combat is happening or to build atmosphere...rarely memorable.

But if i did want music i wouldent buy a game, i would buy music. Mabey that kind of mindset is why?
 

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Err, was they talking about western game music, or north american game music 8D ?

I dont really think that this statement from them really say much though. It depends on what type of game, whose publishing it etc. There are lots of japanese games with not so memorable tunes too, though I agree that, say lost odyssey and games like that tend to have a memorable score.