Japanese Eroge Company Renames Rape Games to "Platinum Games"

[Pandalisk]

So my platinum game of Jak and Daxter is really? Holy Shi-

 

[JackiJinx]

Oh, good. Now I can experience virtual rape without the virtual rape name.

 

[Danglybits]

You can't just ban a game because you preform illegal activities in it, then you'd have to pull GTA and man hunt.
YES the game is in VERY poor tastes and YES rape is a horrible crime, but Japan is still a free country and you have to remember: its a game.
we're always the first to say "video games don't incourage violance" so we can't say it incourages rape (atleast without being tottal hypocrites).

I hate to have to agree with you on all points. We can't say this causes people to be rapists and warps the minds of the young or stupid and then say that GTA is just a game. So we're just gonna have to deal with this. Well said.


Sex always gets a bigger reaction than violence.

 

[Scrythe]

I'm using that now.

I'm now calling my "Rape Van" my "Premium Van".

On a slightly more serious note, this news is disturbing to me only because I drink gratuitous amounts of Premium Rum/Vodka. When I'm lying face down on the toilet, gasping for air between globs of yesterday's lunch, the last thing I want to think about is rape. Especially premium Japanese rape.

 

[hailene]

Pressing right trigger is about close to firing a gun as clicking my mouse is to stripping some helpless girl's clothes off.

Actually, pressing right trigger is probably closer. Since it's basically the same motion with the correct finger.

NO MORE FPSs!

 

[Haydyn]

Basically, Self-rightous Americans hate Rape games, so companies change names while keeping all the content, and these Self-rightous Americans get to feel like they did a good thing, when in reality, they had a chance to do what they claim they believe is right, and didn't do anything about it other than piss and moan. I'm actually siding with the game creators on this one. Self-rightous Americans make me feel ashamed I'm American.

Now, I must figure out how to use the word "Platinum" in the name of some kind of sexual wrestling move...

 

[Samurai Goomba]

Man I bet PlatinumGames is pissed, there's going to be some major confusion.

Maybe they'll be really happy. What were their sales like before this?

'Cause we all know the porn industry doesn't make any money at all, and that nobody shells out money for even the perceived promise of sex.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

So my platinum game of Jak and Daxter is really? Holy Shi-

You have to collect the secret 102nd Power Cell to unlock that mode.

 

[The Lost Big Boss]

If there is ever a time we needed Jack Thompson...

I honestly can't think of a time where we'd need Jack Thompson.

Twas a joke, Jack Thompson is the dumbest man to ever walk the earth. One sec I need to go kill all my friends because I did it in GTA.

 

[geldonyetich]

There were actually two young japanese girls in my calculus class last year who played hentai games in their spare time.

Hawt. Granted, they probably did so out of some kind of girl thing, probably exploring the fundamental emotional territory the characters involved might have been going through.

Posting this is probably a terrible idea, and most likely flame bait. But...none of these stances are hidden from the people I care about, and in that light it's difficult to take on-line insults seriously anyway. Flame away.

Despite the presense of seemingly vehement posts coming from me here and there, I certainly feel everyone is suited to their own opinions, so I'll not flame you.

However, simply calling this censorship is slightly off, it's merely addressing the knee-jerk issue. The real problem at the bottom of this whole thing has nothing to do with free speech.

Instead, it has to do with if one's open-mindedness is so very open-minded as to induce genuine harm. In a scenario out of the game, we don't walk through a park and see a man raping a screaming 10-year-old girl, shrug, and keep walking, thinking to ourselves, "well, who am I to judge?" So there's a definite limit to how open-minded you can be before you're condoning harm. In other words, there's a point where being open-minded is no longer a function of intelligence, but rather an irresponsible lack thereof.

Creating games about raping people is pretty close to that line. It's a bit of a stretch to say that a game like RapeLay will definitely get a person to start raping people, even psychological experiments finding varying results. However, it's not a stretch at all to say that the open sale of such a product is condoning rape on the level of being content in a game you can buy. At the point where we're a society that chooses to condone rape on an additional level, we're that much closer to the "well, who am I to judge" scenario above.

So, when you break it all down to the fundamentals, the reason why a restriction of a game like RapeLay applies is because the harm condoning it may bring to a society is greater than the harm not condoning it may bring to the benefit free speech brings to society.

excuse me for a minute *laughs hysterically*

Oh God the slippery slope argument?

No, it wasn't, and if you can't tell the difference between the real thing and this then the hysterical laugh is on you.

 

[Ciarang]

I tend to stay clear of this game, however I have been told that cosplay fetish academy is rather good...

 

[geldonyetich]

There were actually two young japanese girls in my calculus class last year who played hentai games in their spare time.

Hawt. Granted, they probably did so out of some kind of girl thing, probably exploring the fundamental emotional territory the characters involved might have been going through.

Posting this is probably a terrible idea, and most likely flame bait. But...none of these stances are hidden from the people I care about, and in that light it's difficult to take on-line insults seriously anyway. Flame away.

Despite the presense of seemingly vehement posts coming from me here and there, I certainly feel everyone is suited to their own opinions, so I'll not flame you.

However, simply calling this censorship is slightly off, it's merely addressing the knee-jerk issue. The real problem at the bottom of this whole thing has nothing to do with free speech.

Instead, it has to do with if one's open-mindedness is so very open-minded as to induce genuine harm. In a scenario out of the game, we don't walk through a park and see a man raping a screaming 10-year-old girl, shrug, and keep walking, thinking to ourselves, "well, who am I to judge?" So there's a definite limit to how open-minded you can be before you're condoning harm. In other words, there's a point where being open-minded is no longer a function of intelligence, but rather an irresponsible lack thereof.

Creating games about raping people is pretty close to that line. It's a bit of a stretch to say that a game like RapeLay will definitely get a person to start raping people, even psychological experiments finding varying results. However, it's not a stretch at all to say that the open sale of such a product is condoning rape on the level of being content in a game you can buy. At the point where we're a society that chooses to condone rape on an additional level, we're that much closer to the "well, who am I to judge" scenario above.

So, when you break it all down to the fundamentals, the reason why a restriction of a game like RapeLay applies is because the harm condoning it may bring to a society is greater than the harm not condoning it may bring to the benefit free speech brings to society.

excuse me for a minute *laughs hysterically*

Oh God the slippery slope argument?

No, it wasn't, and if you can't tell the difference between the real thing and this then the hysterical laugh is on you.

No you said we get closer to the "who am I to judge" scenario and if you think that will lead us there that IS the slippery slope, if you don't think we'll ever get to that dreaded point from rape games than what difference does it make if they exist?

No, it isn't. It's a slippery slope if I said we'll eventually go completely over to the other side. I'm saying it goes only so far, and stops. Slippery Slope is only a fallacy when you are trying to establish more than you have evidence to support.

I do have the evidence to support this, because it's self-evident. In saying that the open sale of a content in a product is condoning that content in so far that of being something you can buy in a product, I'm merely pointing out the obvious. It is, like I said, "that much closer" to the precedent of ignoring rape entirely. It is, indeed, going exactly that far, irrefutably - and therefore it is not slippery slope.

Even Japan felt that was going too far [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/92126-Rape-Games-Banned-in-Japan-For-Real]. I agree. I'm not in favor of condoning open sale of games about raping people. Whether or not it actually drives someone to rape is irrelevant, I just don't like the idea of living in a society where games about raping people are openly condoned.

It's not a free speech issue, it's a question of where the line of common decency is drawn. Despite what select corners of the Internet would seem to indicate, free speech is not a license to push those boundaries. On the contrary, having free speech is as much about the freedom to express what you don't want to express as it is what you do. Don't quash my freedom by saying I have no right to say I don't want America to be known as the Rape Sim nation.

Incidentally, I'm quite liberal. I just put more thought into how I go about it. I hope this little demonstration establishes that not paying attention and diving onto a scene like a jackal, laughing hysterically, produces more harm than good.

 

[KingPiccolOwned]

Aren't Sony's classic games already sold under the Platinum name?

I can't wait to hear what they make of this...

No that's Sony Greatest Hits. However the XBox ones are under the label of Platinum games.