Japanese Scientists Unveil Thinking, Learning Robot

[DudeistBelieve]

Useful, and amazing, but people ought to remind themselves that it is not self-aware, and that self-awareness is impossible with an Artificial intelligence.

Yes, this AI isn't self-aware, but self-aware AI hasn't been disproven, and is actually one of the main goals of AI research. If we are one day able to perfectly model a chimp brain (chimps are self-aware), then we can theoretically make a self-aware AI.


http://news.discovery.com/animals/chimpanzees-self-awareness-110504.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_AI

Why in God's name would we want to do that? It'll end up destroying us and it's cruel to make something that can't die.

Your name says it all. I'm insane, and I want to play God. But really, sentient AI doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. If anything, it will be needed for when we're all living in computers in the future. I want to be immortal, and we need AI to make that possible.

Would you want to be immortal with out the choice to die?

I can understand wanting to live forever in theory, but I think eventually I'd want to leave.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

Can we like nuke them now? lets just go ahead and do that, when the robot apoc comes I'll say 'Fucking GD Japanese, this is THEIR fault"

Please somebody tell them this is a really bad idea.

 

[Warforger]

have none of these scientists ever seen a single sci-fi film. this is just an end of the world level accident waitng to happen.

I'm confused, what part of giving robots the ability to think and make decisions means they're going to make the decision to KILL US ALL. It still makes no sense at all. I mean we have the ability to think and we haven't decided to kill all robots. It's a stupid idea to make a threat to the humans.

 

[poppabaggins]

Useful, and amazing, but people ought to remind themselves that it is not self-aware, and that self-awareness is impossible with an Artificial intelligence.

Yes, this AI isn't self-aware, but self-aware AI hasn't been disproven, and is actually one of the main goals of AI research. If we are one day able to perfectly model a chimp brain (chimps are self-aware), then we can theoretically make a self-aware AI.


http://news.discovery.com/animals/chimpanzees-self-awareness-110504.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_AI

Why in God's name would we want to do that? It'll end up destroying us and it's cruel to make something that can't die.

Your name says it all. I'm insane, and I want to play God. But really, sentient AI doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. If anything, it will be needed for when we're all living in computers in the future. I want to be immortal, and we need AI to make that possible.

Would you want to be immortal with out the choice to die?

I can understand wanting to live forever in theory, but I think eventually I'd want to leave.

Life is to great for me to think that I would ever want to die. There's always something new to experience and there's too little time to do everything. Also, I'm mainly talking about living as a conscious being inside a computer (or a hybrid human/computer-connected cyborg). If I'm in a computer, the possibilities are endless (think the Matrix, but you control everything). By 2018, we'll be able to fit a human brain into $1000 worth of RAM, so I'm really hoping that we can get the proper technology to make me immortal within my lifetime.

Now if I survived so long that everything in the universe disappeared and I had no possibility of creating things on my own, that's where I would want to end it.

 

[Alphakirby]

Ah, skynet, you're here. Take a seat.

Fucking ninjas,always stealing my ideas.
Yeah,my first thought was Skynet too,soon enough I'll be looking in the phone books for Cohn Jonner to save us from the robots of doom.

 

[Ukomba]

Yay! Here come the Geth!

Just don't forget the self destruct:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuUQp8nvxUU

 

[SomeBritishDude]

"Ok, now let's tell the robot to pour water into the glass"

"I'll pick up the glass...I'll pick up the bottle...I'll make the puny human pay for patronizing me with menial tasks..."

Seriously, we're fucked.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

For everyone here, what is this fear of robots and AI you all seem to posses? Where is the real world data to support these outlandish claims that robots will rise up and kill/enslave us all?

I'm liking the idea of a robot that can learn.

 

[Viral_Lola]

By your command!

 

[Lenin211]

"Robot, could you get me some water?"


"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."


It will be awesome to have intelligent robots in the house!

 

[Tharwen]

Well done, Japan! You have some clever people.

I think a lot of what it was doing then was manually programmed though... for example, it already knew each of the sub-tasks (e.g. pouring water, picking up the cup), as shown by the recording describing what it was doing.

 

[thelonewolf266]

Never mind the possibility of them enslaving our race or murdering all of us I wouldn't connect it to the internet because there are a lot if very dirty very wrong things it could learn that I do not want it attempting to do any where near me.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

Wait, "It also uses the internet to learn"

Shit, Rule 34 with robots are about to become a reality.

 

[Vigilantis]

It connects to the internet to learn? Hope it doesnt visit the Terminator 2: Judgement Day IMDB page.

Dont expect humans to survive another 200 years if we keep this up

 

[A Satanic Panda]

When does something because sentient enough for us to consider it equal? We will essentially introduce a non-human creature (artificial or not) in a human society with the ability to understand it. But it won't have the history and evolution of it's own culture to take from and contextualise. Try explaining why it can't have a girlfriend when it reads so much about them. Then try explaining why it's going to become obsolete in 3 years time, yet remain functional and aware for many years after that.

Making something more human when it is not human isn't a good idea. If this learning is limited to practical tasks and environmental interaction, then fine. But if artificial intelligence develops it's own true consciousness, it could spell a whole host of trouble.

Also... hivemind........ why?

I'd say emotion would be the deciding factor. And I don't see that magically happening like it does in the movies. A robot could replicate emotions if it learned what situation they'd apply and such, but it couldn't actually feel them.

As for the hivemind, I think that's the coolest part. This is definitely a huge step, but we've had somewhat adaptive AI being worked on for a while, none resulting in something quite like this but still. The hivemind thing means they can learn much faster. It would be horribly inefficient for every robot to have to learn the same things.

So yes, I am incredibly happy about this. It's made my night (well, morning really).

Yea, emotion would be an issue, it's not like it could replicate the exact chemical reactions required. It could as you say, initiate emotion. But really, is emotion the deciding factor. Emotion is not indicative of sentience. Intelligence and freedom of thought is more of a factor for me. They're going to eventually become smart enough to notice the societal gap between how they and we are treated. Just because they can't cry about the divide wouldn't mean they didn't understand it. There is also no saying they won't develop some digital equivalent of human emotion. Not chemical but an unconscious number crunch that involuntarily simulates emotive response.

But what stops SOINN from filling the same shoes as neurons? After all what it all boils down to is processing information. That's what our brains do, but our brains are very nonlinear about it. But whats to say that soon robots won't feel emotion like we do? just with 1s and 0s and not with Serotonin?

 

[danirax]

so anyone else here smell technical failure, robots taking over mankind, mankind sends some one into the past to fix all this....or is it just me?

 

[Saelune]

If not everyone, they will atleast take out bartenders based on this.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

So...it's exactly like the Geth?

Also, did anyone else think that music in the background was somewhat Portal-esque?

 

[Mirror Cage]

Finally my wise and future-thinking investment in building an EMP-armed bunker below my apartment will pay off! I'll just go triple-check my inventory of bottled water and emergency rations.

So as one bunker owner to another, do you prefer to eat canned chili or SPAM for the rest of your natural life?