Japanese Scientists Unveil Thinking, Learning Robot

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Use_Imagination_here said:
Think that's impressive?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKLuXUh3M4&feature=related

That is a robot telling a man he "loves" he is afraid of leaving for another country. The future's knocking on the door.
To be honest I think a robot actually learning something is more impressive. Sure, the mere mimicry of human expression like the Hanson robots do will have them pass the Turing Test, but it doesn't mean the robots are actually feeling for themselves.
I know you're not implying any different, but you're wording makes me feel the need to reiterate that this robot has been told to say that he is afraid by extracting information from humanly-compiled database, not because he's drawing a conclusion from a neurological response.
 

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It's like watching puritans calling "witch" because their milk turned sour.
It's actually not even remotely the same string of logic, seeing as one is following plausible patterns and one isn't. Silly poster.
Woah, that's a very rash statement. I believe it's perfectly OK to use a metaphore, since that's what it is; it's using the basic overlap of symbols to indicate similarity. That doesn't mean that each of its branching symbols need to match up. Indeed none of them have to.
Also, since I've condemned this fear as being irrational, I'd like to know what your "plausible patterns" are. And going back to the metaphore, you have to remember that plausible means a whole different thing when you have less/different information at your disposal (i.e. the 14th century).
 

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Very, very impressive. And definitely a big step in the right direction (though it's worth noting that this step has been taken before - this is just another iteration of a very long-running line of research in AI).

But bear in mind that these pretty much inevitably have incredible limitations. Typically, they have to start with some certain knowledge base and, as mentioned, they aren't very good at trying things and extrapolating future solutions from failure (either it's gained enough knowledge to do something or it hasn't).

The biggest problem, however, is always going to be giving it instructions. Truly robust AI should be able to learn languages and, until we hit that point, we've still got a long way to go. There are tricks that can give language-like behavior, but no one has yet managed language comprehension even close to the ability of an average human.

Edit: Just noticed that they're using very strongly color-coded objects with extremely distinct geometries. That's also a pretty big limitation.
 

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It gathers information from the internet?
Ok, not to worry guys. It'll just discover my little pony and it'll be rendered hamrless.
 

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Fuck yeah, my dream of meeting a real life Megaman X is coming closer
brb while i fangasm...
 

Twilight.falls

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This is why I'm going to implant my mind into a robotic shell. That way I shall be spared.

Honestly, this bit of news is insanely awesome.
 

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Jakub324 said:
Why always Japan with the technological leaps?
Because everyone else just wants to war with each other, and have no interest in actually furthering......anything at all.
 

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shadowmagus said:
I for one welcome our new robot overlords.
Yes, I have always preferred the robots and their giant death camps to our "free will", robots make society much more efficent.
 

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Farther than stars said:
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Useful, and amazing, but people ought to remind themselves that it is not self-aware, and that self-awareness is impossible with an Artificial intelligence.
I too believe in the existence of the human soul, but don't you think that it is unscientific to deny the possibility of self-awareness in machines? After all, neither you nor I can provide actual evidence that it isn't just a neurological construct which allows thought.
And what about animals? I argue that quite a lot of them are not actually "self-aware", but are definitely capable of complex tasks and even learning, as the sciences of classical and operant conditioning have taught us.
Come to think of it, if you believe in evolution, then you must also believe that self-awareness came to us during a stage of neurological development, which poses the question whether or not robots could evolve to become self-aware.
Like I said, I too believe in the existence of the human soul, but that makes it all the more important that I should take into account the possibility that synthetic life forms might exist. Because if I don't, I could potentially harm something which has the capability to feel without even realising it.
It is paradoxical. You cannot have AI that is self-aware, it will be REAL intelligence, not Artificial intelligence in that case.
 

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With further development, would they be able to "combine" this with the robot being able to read? 'Cause if so, we're screwed.
 

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Gerhardt said:
Oh Japan, you kooky nuts.

Hey, wait a tick... I swear I've seen the robot bartender somewhere else...
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Since when does Daft Punk work at a bar?

OT: Long as it has the 3 Laws I don't care.
 

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This, will not end well. I'm not even talking apocalyptic take-over, although that's possible i guess. I'm just talking the obvious lack of job availability now, and the complete lack of a need for something like this. Or the possible: war becomes game scenario, where powerful nations slug it out with automated military hardware blasting some poor small country into bits with collateral damage.

Overall, I can see no way that this will be of any real benefit to anyone, and I see too many ways it could be a detriment.
 

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as predicted this thread is just skynet jokes.
cant you guys take something like this seriously?
i mean, what can possibly go wrong with robots thinking for themselves?

~ Johnny 5, leader of the new world order.
 

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Im extremely proud of the Human race today. We are one step closer to living in a "Ghost in the Shell" world. Im sure in 20 years we'll have all the tech they have :)
 

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Knowing Japan. I really really don't want to know what they're going to teach it. Unfortunately, I've seen enough anime to know exactly what they'd use AI's for.

Anyways, now that robots can serve drinks, this can finally happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpof-Pl97Zs
 

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So the robots learn through a neural network essentially? I don't see that ending badly at all.



Oh shi-
 

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Why do some idiots persist in doing things that have the potential to make life dramatically worse without any obvious benefit?