Jersey Shore Star in Hot Water Over Grenade Dodger

Giest4life

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Blue_vision said:
Giest4life said:
Blue_vision said:
The DSM said:
Wow that guy sounds like a dick, he probably deserves to get all owned in court.

All this "Reality" Tv like this and The Hills is just more crap in pop culture we will regret in 10 years, like Vanilla Ice and Twilight.
I agree wholeheartedly. Today's pop culture sucks.
Agreed. Just wondering, though, name an era which had "great" popular culture.
Pre-1920 at least. The Renaissance is a good place to start looking. Rome and Greece are decent contenders.
I'm still trying to figure out how to get a good fusion between that kind of thing and what's awesome about modern society, but I'll be sure to tell you when I've found it ;)
Oh, how's this then any different?

Whoring, drinking, gambling, bisexuality (greeks, only), the rise of new money, etc.

The point is, it's been pretty much the same throughout all of history. It's just that people have the tendency to lace the historic pile of shit with some sugar and icing, and present it as a delightful cupcake---one we should all try to achieve.
 

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Jersey Shore: Because America isn't quite stupid enough yet for "Ow, My Balls!" We're getting there.

Looks like Mike Sorrentino's got himself into...

*puts on sunglasses*

quite a Situation.
 

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
buy teh haloz said:
Jersey Shore: Eight People, Half a fucking brain. Nuff said.
Half a brain? That's a little generous, don't you think?

I mean, let's be honest. These people are about as collectively intelligent as your average garden slug. They'd probably solidly lose a round of Jeopardy to the monkeys from "2001", unless every category was "Potent Potables". These people don't have a "blood alcohol level", they have an "alcohol blood level". There's less alcohol in a fully-fueled funny car than in any one of these morons at 6:30 AM. Cheech and Chong would epically facepalm at how drunk and stoned these losers get.

Yet, these are the role models we provide for our young people. Proving once again that the M in MTV stands for "Moronic".
I won't lie, that made me laugh. But still, half a fucking brain when you add up everyone of those tools' "brains" together. Hell, maybe even less. And here's something else:


Once again, fuck Jersey Shore with the burning passion of a thousand suns.
 

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Giest4life said:
Blue_vision said:
Agreed. Just wondering, though, name an era which had "great" popular culture.
Pre-1920 at least. The Renaissance is a good place to start looking. Rome and Greece are decent contenders.
I'm still trying to figure out how to get a good fusion between that kind of thing and what's awesome about modern society, but I'll be sure to tell you when I've found it ;)
Oh, how's this then any different?

Whoring, drinking, gambling, bisexuality (greeks, only), the rise of new money, etc.

The point is, it's been pretty much the same throughout all of history. It's just that people have the tendency to lace the historic pile of shit with some sugar and icing, and present it as a delightful cupcake---one we should all try to achieve.[/quote]Those things were hardly part of pop culture. There's a difference between what goes on in a society and what it's culture is like. In the Renaissance or Ancient Greece, the masses weren't obsessing over some idiot that can ignite a stupid argument at the snap of their fingers or because of how much of a ditz they are. And obviously they had their share of problems with both society and the environment, but their culture was great. In the Renaissance,everyone was talking about the latest artist or politician or musician. In Ancient Greece and Rome, theatre was the centre of entertainment, with a close eye on politics as well. In neither of those times would you have had people being the centre of attention because they're idiots.
 

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But, what can we do about all these douchebags? We gotta think of something.


Of course! Real grenades!
 

Giest4life

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Blue_vision said:
Giest4life said:
Blue_vision said:
Agreed. Just wondering, though, name an era which had "great" popular culture.
Pre-1920 at least. The Renaissance is a good place to start looking. Rome and Greece are decent contenders.
I'm still trying to figure out how to get a good fusion between that kind of thing and what's awesome about modern society, but I'll be sure to tell you when I've found it ;)
Oh, how's this then any different?

Whoring, drinking, gambling, bisexuality (greeks, only), the rise of new money, etc.

The point is, it's been pretty much the same throughout all of history. It's just that people have the tendency to lace the historic pile of shit with some sugar and icing, and present it as a delightful cupcake---one we should all try to achieve.
Those things were hardly part of pop culture. There's a difference between what goes on in a society and what it's culture is like. In the Renaissance or Ancient Greece, the masses weren't obsessing over some idiot that can ignite a stupid argument at the snap of their fingers or because of how much of a ditz they are. And obviously they had their share of problems with both society and the environment, but their culture was great. In the Renaissance,everyone was talking about the latest artist or politician or musician. In Ancient Greece and Rome, theatre was the centre of entertainment, with a close eye on politics as well. In neither of those times would you have had people being the centre of attention because they're idiots.[/quote]

LOL! Who told you that "everyone" was talking about high fashion, art, culture, politics, and etc. Masses are, and have always been the scum of the Earth. The only thing is, history books have ALWAYS excluded the coming and goings of the masses. It's only a very recent phenomenon when historians are gathering information about the masses.

I don't even know where to begin about all the fallacies in your analysis of hisotry....

I'll leave you with this:

"Who will ever relate the whole history of narcotica?--It is almost the history of "culture," of our so-called higher culture." Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science.
 

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I do not know the state laws there about taking people's pictures in public places, or publically open private places. In most states the protection of artists (public photography being artwork) limits the options of people who are photographed, even if someone makes money off of the pictures. Of course laws are slowly changing in some places given various incidents in the ongoing battles between celebrities and pararazzi
Fair use laws allow for limited use of images for the purposes of news, reference, reviews, or parody. Public figures (ie, the president) are basically fair game.

Outside of that, using somebody's image or likeness for profit without their consent is illegal. That's why you have to pay an athlete to put his image on your cereal box. If the girl didn't sign a wavier, she's clearly in the right.
 

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Giest4life said:
LOL! Who told you that "everyone" was talking about high fashion, art, culture, politics, and etc. Masses are, and have always been the scum of the Earth. The only thing is, history books have ALWAYS excluded the coming and goings of the masses. It's only a very recent phenomenon when historians are gathering information about the masses.

I don't even know where to begin about all the fallacies in your analysis of hisotry....

I'll leave you with this:

"Who will ever relate the whole history of narcotica?--It is almost the history of "culture," of our so-called higher culture." Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science.
Perhaps coming from your "the entire human race except for me is total shit" viewpoint. But you really just have to take a glance into any history book to see that other cultures have had far more sophistication and far more meaningful "popular" culture than we do today.
What's even the point in stating that today's pop culture is terrible if you can't provide any ideals or visualizations of any better one? It's easy to say "this is stupid." Give me a reason why or example that pop culture has always been terrible, other than "humans are stupid hurr."
 

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Blue_vision said:
Giest4life said:
LOL! Who told you that "everyone" was talking about high fashion, art, culture, politics, and etc. Masses are, and have always been the scum of the Earth. The only thing is, history books have ALWAYS excluded the coming and goings of the masses. It's only a very recent phenomenon when historians are gathering information about the masses.

I don't even know where to begin about all the fallacies in your analysis of hisotry....

I'll leave you with this:

"Who will ever relate the whole history of narcotica?--It is almost the history of "culture," of our so-called higher culture." Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science.
Perhaps coming from your "the entire human race except for me is total shit" viewpoint. But you really just have to take a glance into any history book to see that other cultures have had far more sophistication and far more meaningful "popular" culture than we do today.
What's even the point in stating that today's pop culture is terrible if you can't provide any ideals or visualizations of any better one? It's easy to say "this is stupid." Give me a reason why or example that pop culture has always been terrible, other than "humans are stupid hurr."
You know, if dreaming of a better era will help you sleep at night. Why not? Sure, whatever you say.

Also, never get in an argument over stuff that you think is "meaningful," "sophistication," "thoughtful," and "culture." Empty words, made valid only by the egotistic who think their narrative has even dime's worth of value.
 

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Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
I'm freakin getting it
It's moments like these that I really despise you.

This is preposterous/ridiculous/stupid, why do people watch that crap and allow people like that to do things like this, SKULLKID WHY?!
Moments like those are reasons I believe you're bald! I watch it because of the irony of people not from new Jersey living on shore(this season no shore) fighting. Last season was funnier.
...Wait how did this moment make you think I was bald(Which I'm not and will prove back home) Still not a good enough reasons, you shouldn't ever watch it....EVER...you die now.
Silly bald boy! its already been established that i can't die. And everything you do that contradicts me makes me think you're bald. Also YOU'RE NOT MY MUMMY! I WILL WATCH WHAT I WANT ;D
But i'm not bald...I am silly though! Souplex could kill you, oh and so could I and i'm sure i'm the invincible one here! Fair enough...Oh I know i'm not your mother, i'm your Father son.
Souplex can't kill me hes tried and failed miserably! 20 times... And no my father is not you. (this whole family tree thing is way to confusing.)
Fair enough, but you can't kill me so I must be able to kill you, one way or another.
Wait if we are both invincible......how do we die?
 

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Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
I'm freakin getting it
It's moments like these that I really despise you.

This is preposterous/ridiculous/stupid, why do people watch that crap and allow people like that to do things like this, SKULLKID WHY?!
Moments like those are reasons I believe you're bald! I watch it because of the irony of people not from new Jersey living on shore(this season no shore) fighting. Last season was funnier.
...Wait how did this moment make you think I was bald(Which I'm not and will prove back home) Still not a good enough reasons, you shouldn't ever watch it....EVER...you die now.
Silly bald boy! its already been established that i can't die. And everything you do that contradicts me makes me think you're bald. Also YOU'RE NOT MY MUMMY! I WILL WATCH WHAT I WANT ;D
But i'm not bald...I am silly though! Souplex could kill you, oh and so could I and i'm sure i'm the invincible one here! Fair enough...Oh I know i'm not your mother, i'm your Father son.
Souplex can't kill me hes tried and failed miserably! 20 times... And no my father is not you. (this whole family tree thing is way to confusing.)
Fair enough, but you can't kill me so I must be able to kill you, one way or another.
Wait if we are both invincible......how do we die?
Uhm...I know what will kill me...only one thing and i'm not going to tell you!
 

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Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
I'm freakin getting it
It's moments like these that I really despise you.

This is preposterous/ridiculous/stupid, why do people watch that crap and allow people like that to do things like this, SKULLKID WHY?!
Moments like those are reasons I believe you're bald! I watch it because of the irony of people not from new Jersey living on shore(this season no shore) fighting. Last season was funnier.
...Wait how did this moment make you think I was bald(Which I'm not and will prove back home) Still not a good enough reasons, you shouldn't ever watch it....EVER...you die now.
Silly bald boy! its already been established that i can't die. And everything you do that contradicts me makes me think you're bald. Also YOU'RE NOT MY MUMMY! I WILL WATCH WHAT I WANT ;D
But i'm not bald...I am silly though! Souplex could kill you, oh and so could I and i'm sure i'm the invincible one here! Fair enough...Oh I know i'm not your mother, i'm your Father son.
Souplex can't kill me hes tried and failed miserably! 20 times... And no my father is not you. (this whole family tree thing is way to confusing.)
Fair enough, but you can't kill me so I must be able to kill you, one way or another.
Wait if we are both invincible......how do we die?
Uhm...I know what will kill me...only one thing and i'm not going to tell you!
We already know what it is. You've told us a million times.
 

Baldry

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Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
I'm freakin getting it
It's moments like these that I really despise you.

This is preposterous/ridiculous/stupid, why do people watch that crap and allow people like that to do things like this, SKULLKID WHY?!
Moments like those are reasons I believe you're bald! I watch it because of the irony of people not from new Jersey living on shore(this season no shore) fighting. Last season was funnier.
...Wait how did this moment make you think I was bald(Which I'm not and will prove back home) Still not a good enough reasons, you shouldn't ever watch it....EVER...you die now.
Silly bald boy! its already been established that i can't die. And everything you do that contradicts me makes me think you're bald. Also YOU'RE NOT MY MUMMY! I WILL WATCH WHAT I WANT ;D
But i'm not bald...I am silly though! Souplex could kill you, oh and so could I and i'm sure i'm the invincible one here! Fair enough...Oh I know i'm not your mother, i'm your Father son.
Souplex can't kill me hes tried and failed miserably! 20 times... And no my father is not you. (this whole family tree thing is way to confusing.)
Fair enough, but you can't kill me so I must be able to kill you, one way or another.
Wait if we are both invincible......how do we die?
Uhm...I know what will kill me...only one thing and i'm not going to tell you!
We already know what it is. You've told us a million times.
Wait what?! I have! What is it then?
 

Therumancer

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BloodSquirrel said:
Therumancer said:
I do not know the state laws there about taking people's pictures in public places, or publically open private places. In most states the protection of artists (public photography being artwork) limits the options of people who are photographed, even if someone makes money off of the pictures. Of course laws are slowly changing in some places given various incidents in the ongoing battles between celebrities and pararazzi
Fair use laws allow for limited use of images for the purposes of news, reference, reviews, or parody. Public figures (ie, the president) are basically fair game.

Outside of that, using somebody's image or likeness for profit without their consent is illegal. That's why you have to pay an athlete to put his image on your cereal box. If the girl didn't sign a wavier, she's clearly in the right.
I do not think you are correct about that. Paprarazzi take photos of celebrity for profit without their consent, and the fact that none of the celebrities can do anything about it (and are even being stalked in many cases) is part of the issue.

I believe the nature of the venue has a lot to do with it also, a professional athlete or celebrity performing is typically covered under a contract to the ticket holders. The venues they perform in are also "closed" private property as opposed to "open" private property as you can only enter with an invitation/ticket and by agreeing to the policies set by the performers and venue owner. This is why a lot of places these guys perform have rules against photography, recording, etc... If you show up with a picture of a show and try and sell it, you can get in trouble since you either got it in violation of the policies, or by tresspassing.

It also comes down to a matter of what you say about the person. Simply showing a picture of someone as they were on public property is one thing. Claiming that they said or did something other than what is in that picture is quite another. You cannot for example snap a picture of a celebrity at a grocery store, tack it on your product, and then claim that they said positive things about your product or use it. The guys being paid for their image are typically being paid for more than that, they are being paid for an endorsement which goes further than just the pictures. This is also incidently why when a celebrity does something messed up, a lot of their sponsors pull out since they no longer want to be associated with that guy talking about their product or service.

In this case, she was in a privatly owned public area with no policies preventing photography. What's more she apparently posed for the photo. The game itself puts no words into her mouth at all, all it does is claim that The Situation thinks she's unattractive.

I can see where it's a touchy subject, but as things stand now I don't think it's illegal. What's more even if the laws were to be changed to deal with things like this, he's likely to be just fine since the law can't be applied retroactively.
 

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Oh, it all makes sense! I've read a few articles about something going over the rights to an app or something, I can't really remember, but I was never able to make sense of it - I never realised "The Situation" was a pseudonym for some 'guido' on the show.
 

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Giest4life said:
Blue_vision said:
Giest4life said:
LOL! Who told you that "everyone" was talking about high fashion, art, culture, politics, and etc. Masses are, and have always been the scum of the Earth. The only thing is, history books have ALWAYS excluded the coming and goings of the masses. It's only a very recent phenomenon when historians are gathering information about the masses.

I don't even know where to begin about all the fallacies in your analysis of hisotry....

I'll leave you with this:

"Who will ever relate the whole history of narcotica?--It is almost the history of "culture," of our so-called higher culture." Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science.
Perhaps coming from your "the entire human race except for me is total shit" viewpoint. But you really just have to take a glance into any history book to see that other cultures have had far more sophistication and far more meaningful "popular" culture than we do today.
What's even the point in stating that today's pop culture is terrible if you can't provide any ideals or visualizations of any better one? It's easy to say "this is stupid." Give me a reason why or example that pop culture has always been terrible, other than "humans are stupid hurr."
You know, if dreaming of a better era will help you sleep at night. Why not? Sure, whatever you say.

Also, never get in an argument over stuff that you think is "meaningful," "sophistication," "thoughtful," and "culture." Empty words, made valid only by the egotistic who think their narrative has even dime's worth of value.
sry to bring this a little off topic, but are u saying that if anyone holds anything "meaningful" to them they should not defend it, and anyone who does so does not deserve the light of day?
 

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Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
I'm freakin getting it
It's moments like these that I really despise you.

This is preposterous/ridiculous/stupid, why do people watch that crap and allow people like that to do things like this, SKULLKID WHY?!
Moments like those are reasons I believe you're bald! I watch it because of the irony of people not from new Jersey living on shore(this season no shore) fighting. Last season was funnier.
...Wait how did this moment make you think I was bald(Which I'm not and will prove back home) Still not a good enough reasons, you shouldn't ever watch it....EVER...you die now.
Silly bald boy! its already been established that i can't die. And everything you do that contradicts me makes me think you're bald. Also YOU'RE NOT MY MUMMY! I WILL WATCH WHAT I WANT ;D
But i'm not bald...I am silly though! Souplex could kill you, oh and so could I and i'm sure i'm the invincible one here! Fair enough...Oh I know i'm not your mother, i'm your Father son.
Souplex can't kill me hes tried and failed miserably! 20 times... And no my father is not you. (this whole family tree thing is way to confusing.)
Fair enough, but you can't kill me so I must be able to kill you, one way or another.
Wait if we are both invincible......how do we die?
Uhm...I know what will kill me...only one thing and i'm not going to tell you!
We already know what it is. You've told us a million times.
Wait what?! I have! What is it then?
Your fro being shaved.....so that the prophecy will be complete and you really will be a.....BALD RY!
 

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Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
I'm freakin getting it
It's moments like these that I really despise you.

This is preposterous/ridiculous/stupid, why do people watch that crap and allow people like that to do things like this, SKULLKID WHY?!
Moments like those are reasons I believe you're bald! I watch it because of the irony of people not from new Jersey living on shore(this season no shore) fighting. Last season was funnier.
...Wait how did this moment make you think I was bald(Which I'm not and will prove back home) Still not a good enough reasons, you shouldn't ever watch it....EVER...you die now.
Silly bald boy! its already been established that i can't die. And everything you do that contradicts me makes me think you're bald. Also YOU'RE NOT MY MUMMY! I WILL WATCH WHAT I WANT ;D
But i'm not bald...I am silly though! Souplex could kill you, oh and so could I and i'm sure i'm the invincible one here! Fair enough...Oh I know i'm not your mother, i'm your Father son.
Souplex can't kill me hes tried and failed miserably! 20 times... And no my father is not you. (this whole family tree thing is way to confusing.)
Fair enough, but you can't kill me so I must be able to kill you, one way or another.
Wait if we are both invincible......how do we die?
Uhm...I know what will kill me...only one thing and i'm not going to tell you!
We already know what it is. You've told us a million times.
Wait what?! I have! What is it then?
Your fro being shaved.....so that the prophecy will be complete and you really will be a.....BALD RY!
DAMN IT!!! But their is another step after that and that step I SHALL NOT REVEAL!
 

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Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Baldry said:
Skullkid4187 said:
I'm freakin getting it
It's moments like these that I really despise you.

This is preposterous/ridiculous/stupid, why do people watch that crap and allow people like that to do things like this, SKULLKID WHY?!
Moments like those are reasons I believe you're bald! I watch it because of the irony of people not from new Jersey living on shore(this season no shore) fighting. Last season was funnier.
...Wait how did this moment make you think I was bald(Which I'm not and will prove back home) Still not a good enough reasons, you shouldn't ever watch it....EVER...you die now.
Silly bald boy! its already been established that i can't die. And everything you do that contradicts me makes me think you're bald. Also YOU'RE NOT MY MUMMY! I WILL WATCH WHAT I WANT ;D
But i'm not bald...I am silly though! Souplex could kill you, oh and so could I and i'm sure i'm the invincible one here! Fair enough...Oh I know i'm not your mother, i'm your Father son.
Souplex can't kill me hes tried and failed miserably! 20 times... And no my father is not you. (this whole family tree thing is way to confusing.)
Fair enough, but you can't kill me so I must be able to kill you, one way or another.
Wait if we are both invincible......how do we die?
Uhm...I know what will kill me...only one thing and i'm not going to tell you!
We already know what it is. You've told us a million times.
Wait what?! I have! What is it then?
Your fro being shaved.....so that the prophecy will be complete and you really will be a.....BALD RY!
DAMN IT!!! But their is another step after that and that step I SHALL NOT REVEAL!
Once again you already said it...