Jimquisition: Accountability
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FYI I like clowns that fall down, and squirt eachother in the faces with liquid spewing flowers (Yahtzee) I don't however like clowns that wrench my mouth open only to insert copious amount of shit, then tells me to laugh, or swallow. (Jim) I frakking hate that guy...Sentox6 said:
Now, as a capitalist I'm generally supportive of businesses being able to do business. But, and this is the second most important but next to Jim Sterling's, I also think that just because a business can do something doesn't mean it should.
In this case, the consumer is taken advantage of, and even demonized through DRM. Seriously, not cool developers/publishers. If you insult, short-change, and punish your customers, you shouldn't be surprised if they decide not to buy your products.
Which is why I urge gamers to boycott games that use DRM to punish players. Now, I don't have a current gen console because I'm cheap, so maybe this turns out to be all games nowadays. And if so, then so be it. We need to send a message to developers that this behavior cannot be tolerated. That gamers won't simply lay down and take it like prison bitches.
So says the Butterfly.
In this case, the consumer is taken advantage of, and even demonized through DRM. Seriously, not cool developers/publishers. If you insult, short-change, and punish your customers, you shouldn't be surprised if they decide not to buy your products.
Which is why I urge gamers to boycott games that use DRM to punish players. Now, I don't have a current gen console because I'm cheap, so maybe this turns out to be all games nowadays. And if so, then so be it. We need to send a message to developers that this behavior cannot be tolerated. That gamers won't simply lay down and take it like prison bitches.
So says the Butterfly.
First off Jim, love the series, keep covering the topics that need to be discussed.
This one was near and dear to me because I *loathe* Steam. If humanly possible, I will not buy anything through them or GFWL. I totally understand the need for accounts for online multiplayer games that involve persistent unlocks and achievements, but why do I need to be logged into GFWL to play Fallout 3? You literally have two sets of saves, one for when GFWL is working, and one for when it's not.
Steam is the same.. I had it go sideways on me one day, had to completely reinstall it. Then, despite the fact that all the games are still on my hard drive, it wants me to redownload everything. I haven't found a way to have it realize the files are still there and this point I just don't care.
The flip side of this is, of course, the 'one password to rule them all' push from sites like facebook. Is this better? No, no it's not.
This one was near and dear to me because I *loathe* Steam. If humanly possible, I will not buy anything through them or GFWL. I totally understand the need for accounts for online multiplayer games that involve persistent unlocks and achievements, but why do I need to be logged into GFWL to play Fallout 3? You literally have two sets of saves, one for when GFWL is working, and one for when it's not.
Steam is the same.. I had it go sideways on me one day, had to completely reinstall it. Then, despite the fact that all the games are still on my hard drive, it wants me to redownload everything. I haven't found a way to have it realize the files are still there and this point I just don't care.
The flip side of this is, of course, the 'one password to rule them all' push from sites like facebook. Is this better? No, no it's not.
It was not bad. I'm surprised he didn't mention the word pirate. I guess it's easier to rant about something (in this case the greed mean game industry) while happening to forget to talk about their side of the story. It won't be a problem as long as you keep on your audience side tough...
Nobody ever misses Hitler's side of the story in a discussion about WW2 (or at least usually not), but if Jim adopts this style in a 'Microsoft Vs Apple' kind of discussion, he'll have some problems.
Nobody ever misses Hitler's side of the story in a discussion about WW2 (or at least usually not), but if Jim adopts this style in a 'Microsoft Vs Apple' kind of discussion, he'll have some problems.
I wish games would just go back to the DRM=CDKey system. So much simpler. DRM is only stopping the people who own the game from playing, not people who pirate. Maybe its time the company looked at a rewards system where, if you buy the game, and register it, then you get free DLC/Expansionist.
And by register, I am thinking along the lines of how Egosoft do it for the X games. Just go to the forums, go to your profile, and put the key in, hit confirm, and your done. Free stuff for you. XD
And by register, I am thinking along the lines of how Egosoft do it for the X games. Just go to the forums, go to your profile, and put the key in, hit confirm, and your done. Free stuff for you. XD
Good points made, as usual. I think the Jimquisition has become my favourite series on the site. I know a lot of people don't seem to understand he's constantly taking the piss, but I think his presentation is brilliant. There's just one thing bothering me after this particular episode: I want that bloody fridge magnet.
Valid criticisms sure, but really...I don't think that games are the focal point of this problem. Relentlessly re-enforcing customer loyalty? How about Apple? How about for videos, where I sign into Netflix, Hulu and Youtube, and have the option to buy things from Amazon, Apple, Android and who knows what else? Games seem like such a serious offender because the average gamer is going to be getting products for multiple platforms, and multiple developers.
The majority of this complaint seems to be mainly because of healthy competition. Every once in a while you hear a conversation where people are terrified by the possibility of Steam monopolizing digital distribution, or one of the consoles becoming the only console out there, and that stifling the need for innovation. Well if you want competition, and you want the kind of bare minimum of anti-stealing mechanisms in place that don't inconvenience the consumer but make it physically possible for a business to function (Things like a CD code, a disc check, or other mechanisms where a person who wants to pirate the game has to at least go someplace online and download something) there is going to be a lot of signing in in places.
Lastly, these techniques...work. Why does the local grocery store have a loyalty card that lets you access certain sales, even though the card itself is completely free? Well the card in your wallet makes you associate shopping with that store. Its a small pain, but it makes people a tad more loyal. And that kind of loyalty is very easy to do i n something like video games. The more digital other things become, the more you will see it there as well. Personally, my only real complaint is when the redundancy is actually inconvenient. I have no problem signing into Steam, but I shudder at the thought of GFWL because it has rendered games of mine unplayable for hours. With any luck, all those sign ins will slowly consolidate into a reasonable number.
The majority of this complaint seems to be mainly because of healthy competition. Every once in a while you hear a conversation where people are terrified by the possibility of Steam monopolizing digital distribution, or one of the consoles becoming the only console out there, and that stifling the need for innovation. Well if you want competition, and you want the kind of bare minimum of anti-stealing mechanisms in place that don't inconvenience the consumer but make it physically possible for a business to function (Things like a CD code, a disc check, or other mechanisms where a person who wants to pirate the game has to at least go someplace online and download something) there is going to be a lot of signing in in places.
Lastly, these techniques...work. Why does the local grocery store have a loyalty card that lets you access certain sales, even though the card itself is completely free? Well the card in your wallet makes you associate shopping with that store. Its a small pain, but it makes people a tad more loyal. And that kind of loyalty is very easy to do i n something like video games. The more digital other things become, the more you will see it there as well. Personally, my only real complaint is when the redundancy is actually inconvenient. I have no problem signing into Steam, but I shudder at the thought of GFWL because it has rendered games of mine unplayable for hours. With any luck, all those sign ins will slowly consolidate into a reasonable number.
I must admit, like mold between the fat rolls of a morbidly obese man with poor bathing habits, he's beginning to grow on me.
His first couple videos made me grind my teeth. Now I can't tell if he's changing his persona or if I'm just beginning to enjoy it more since it's become obvious that he isn't nearly as much of a self-important arrogant prick as he presents himself in his videos.
EDIT: sweet, 200th post! ...only took me a few years.
His first couple videos made me grind my teeth. Now I can't tell if he's changing his persona or if I'm just beginning to enjoy it more since it's become obvious that he isn't nearly as much of a self-important arrogant prick as he presents himself in his videos.
EDIT: sweet, 200th post! ...only took me a few years.