Jimquisition: BOYCOTT!

[Zeroththeking]

My boycott of Valve until they release HL2 ep3 is still going strong thank you very much.

That's a stupid reason to boycott... you missed out on amazing games just because you didn't get the sequel to an arbitrary game?

 

[RaikuFA]

i am currently boycotting capcom because of the refusal to release AAI2 over here yet says theyll release any other ace attorney games that are released. what if a character from AAI2 appears in AA5? were not gonna know who they are. plus this one explains a bit more about what happened to edgeworths dad

also boycotting over MML3 cancellation, the rerelease of MVC3 5 months after the original and not compensating those who bought the original, then insulting those who were upset that megaman wasnt included in the roster.

no one cares though because "mml3 was a bad game and fighting games are the only good genre." ill remember that when they cut street fighter in a few years because people got sick of rebuying the games.

capcom dont have anything i want anyways. resident evil? dont care, didnt play 5. asuras wrath? not intresting, all it is is an asian god of war. dragons dogma? watered down dragon age. devil may cry? series is shit and boring and emo looking dante is worse.dead rising 2? dont need it. viewtiful joe? please like theyre gonna make a new one.

 

[latenightapplepie]

Probably the best Jimquisition episode so far. Very good.

 

[Something Amyss]

is boycotting a big issue? I haven't noticed. But now I hear this and they were mentioning it on the podcast. Huh..I guess I just don't get that involved.

Nor should you, but he's right. People scream BOYCOTT! at the drop of a hat. There were "boycott" cries over Dante looking like a different kind of prat in the new DMC. There were boycott cries over something about the new Tomb Raider, too. Hell if I can remember, but it was probably because Lara's boobs aren't DDDDDDDs anymore.

Stuff about "always on" DRM and DRM in general makes sense, but gamers toss around "boycott" like most people toss around "like." Like, you know.

Plus, few gaming boycotts ever follow through. Since, as Jim pointed out, people have to have their Modern Warfare 2.

 

[Still Life]

Asking gamers to treat the verb boycott and its power with respect, is like trying to ask Michel Foucault to pull the self-indulgent stick out of his ass.

The boycott for Modern Warfare 2 has to have been the largest boycott (or close to), and it ended up a complete and utter farce.

Not enough to wipe you completely off my shit list, Jim, but I'll give you another chance next week.

Oh, look! Another self-serving, smug remark about Jim's persona.

I'd rather read your opinion than a pointless remark about the content's creator. You're a person who has keen insight, yes?

 

[Joseph Alexander]

My boycott of Valve until they release HL2 ep3 is still going strong thank you very much.

if you use steam its not.

 

[AzureRaven]

Wasn't a big fan of his to start, but this isn't half bad. Also, I love the veeery subtle FF9 Zorn and Thorn theme hidden in there. Very sneaky, but it gets extra points in my books for including that.

Spoiler

I'll just leave this here...

 

[Mr. Omega]

1: I like the arrogant persona, but it's also nice to see things taken a little more seriously and personally, like in the NoA episode.

2: I thought the L4D2 outrage was justified, but the call for a boycott wasn't. Mostly becasue I knew it wouldn't work. The Church of Freeman would never defy their Almighty God-King Valve. They'd talk shit, but all the while they had that game pre-ordered and were counting down the days, and would go singing their Lord's praises once the game came out. Plus, the game was good and they actually kept their promise to update it this time.

3: Agreed. Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean you should go to everyone "Stop being excited! Stop having fun! Have my opinion or I will YELL LOUDER UNTIL YOU DO!"

4: This all comes about because of 3 things: A: Gamers a whiny, entitled lot who think the Dev should cater to them and only them, and anyone who goes against their wishes should be scorned. B: The internet lets them find a couple like-minded individuals that they can rage together with anonymously with and C: Some people really think that people will give a damn that they are saying "Dante looks emo, so let's boycott!". Entitlement, Anonymity and Delusions of Grandeur are what often lead to these 'boycotts' in the first place.

 

[S14]

I'm sorry Jim but after watching the first couple episodes of your show I wrote it off. However, these last two episodes have been really thought provoking and entertaining well done good sir! Keep it up and you will have a new avid viewer.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Thank you Jim. Thank you. I am so sick of every one wanting to Boycott over the most stupid shit. None of it is for good reason.

Really none of it is ever for a good reason?

OT: Also I like everyone taking the piss out of the MW2 boycott just because of the Steam group. The Steam group was a very small portion of the boycott which was 1/4 of a mil and it was recorded that PC sales were significantly lower for that game. Someone of us do know how to boycott however, thank you very much. There was a lot more to the MW2 boycott than just dedicated servers and to name a few price increase, lack of features like lean and mods.

 

[itf cho]

This may be, perhaps, the best column he's done on the Escapist. And I gotta say, not only was the subject matter interesting, thought out, and presented well - but I really liked not having to wade through the typical beginning and outro.

 

[intheweeds]

I honestly thought he was going to talk about people choosing sides and yelling for a Boycott of the Escapist for the leave of Extra Credits. Well I thank God of Jim to prove me wrong and bring me something good this monday. Awesome.

When i watched I heard the whole thing as a veiled speech about that. It may or may not be, but it is certainly relevant to that discussion. Notice how the most vocal Escapist BOYCOTT callers are still here signing in everyday just to continue posting about it.

 

[00slash00]

THANK YOU! All these "im boycotting this game" posts lately have been absurd. that being said, i did boycott fallout 3 (and have stuck to it, i have no desire to ever play it). not because it looked different but because the gameplay had been fundamentally changed. i wanted a turn based rpg, not an fpsrpg

 

[Tarkand]

Very good episode.

Actually laugh out loud at the 'compiled douchebagness' of the beginning.

 

[Ovoon]

Please, stop with the horrendous looking MS Paint crap. It makes your show look SO unprofessional and, quite frankly, it's an eye sore. That being said, great point, I agree with most of your points.

 

[Plazmatic]

Im sorry, but Jim was wrong on the Left 4 Dead protest, the problem wasn't simply that it was released one year after, it was that it was practically the same game, and that anything else that was added could have been added as an update, and things that weren't fixed in the origional left 4 dead still have not been fixed to this day, were added when left 4 dead 2 came out. and that's just the tip of the iceberg, and if you look, it actually worked, the studio that made the game got kicked out AND they didn't make another game for valve afterwards.

I like your arguement, except the parts where you're wrong.

Left 4 Dead 2 wasn't the same as L4D. Saying so is like complaining about any sequel being the same as the game its based off of. Thats kinda the point of sequels. A lot of the changes done to L4D2 were under the hood. They changed how the Director worked, modified the engine to allow for different features (branching pathes, new melee system, modifiers and deviations from the standard L4D weapon/health system, enhanced matchmaking features), etc. You could argue they could do that in a single update, but I'd then have to ask you why you're being so self entitled. They made a lot of updates in L4D2, people are just bitching because it used the same engine. Its literally the same arguement ignorant people use to complain about Pokemon. "They're all the same" - if you don't know what you're talking about. "They don't add any significant features with each iteration" - if you've never bothered to pick up a copy of the game.

Last time I checked, the Studio that made L4D is STILL creating content, and tweaking content for both games. The original doesn't see as much traffic anymore - its how Halo 3 is to Halo Reach.

Also, the point of the boycott was to tell Valve this would not pass as a fully priced retail game. If you look at the facts and the sales chart, it sold well. And even the creator of the biggest boycott against Valve visited their HQ, played the game, and said "this was actually pretty good". The L4D boycott was an embarassment.

Im not going to read your response since this was not directed at you for you, or other wise anything to do with you. All I said was the reasons for the boycott which were legitimate. this was not an argument as this was not a matter of opinion.

 

[Ovoon]

THANK YOU! All these "im boycotting this game" posts lately have been absurd. that being said, i did boycott fallout 3 (and have stuck to it, i have no desire to ever play it). not because it looked different but because the gameplay had been fundamentally changed. i wanted a turn based rpg, not an fpsrpg

But that isn't a boycott. A boycott is not buying something to prove a point, you didn't buy it because you didn't like the looks of it. That is exactly what jim is talking about. "Boycotting" things for silly reasons.

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

Could not agree more. I just had this conversation with a friend yesterday. How we as gamers have given up any and all hope of making positive change by showing the developers that while we're good at pissing and moaning, we're horrible at sticking to our guns.

And to be fair, I'm just as guilty as anyone of doing this. Although I never cried out or tried to rally troops, I was not intending to buy the last CoD game because of the poor treatment of the Infinity Ward founders then ended up getting it anyway because I wanted to be Richard Nixon shooting zombies in the face. I am properly ashamed of myself, but I still got to spill galons of zombie ichor while saying "I am NOT A CROOK!" and waving my fat jowels Futurama style.

I hope we can follow Jim's advice on this one and maybe be a bit less quick to sound the rally cry in the future unless it's truly neccesary.

 

[-Dragmire-]

If boycotting ever actually works and publishers see a significant dip in profits, they'll probably blame pirating anyway.

 

[lord.jeff]

Every week half the forum for Jim seems to be "Good thing I gave the show one last shot, you managed to do a good episode."

As for the boycotts there stupid, half the time people boycott a game because it's to similar to the first the other half is because the game is to different from the first. Also I think I'm gonna see this episode make a few rounds when the next Call of Duty game gets announced.