Jimquisition: Go Fish
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Wait... since when was Fish the victim?
I guess I just don't know enough about the issue, all I saw was the Annoyed Gamer's attack and Phil's childish and horrible-minded twitter feed. But from what I saw, that guy deserved to be attacked, unless all of his statements where supposed to be a joke, I have no sympathy for an asshole like that.
I mean, was there some other reason he was getting so much hate either than he was being an ass? If not, than I'm honestly glad he left the industry.
I guess I just don't know enough about the issue, all I saw was the Annoyed Gamer's attack and Phil's childish and horrible-minded twitter feed. But from what I saw, that guy deserved to be attacked, unless all of his statements where supposed to be a joke, I have no sympathy for an asshole like that.
I mean, was there some other reason he was getting so much hate either than he was being an ass? If not, than I'm honestly glad he left the industry.
Pixel art ain't fast and it certainly ain't easy.Lightknight said:
Especially when you are basically a one man team at the point he was on Fez.
And from what I understand it is anything but a small game.
So when one person puts that much effort into making gorgeous pixel art and redoes it a bunch of times to make it even more detailed then the last- I wouldn't be all that surprised it took him that long.
That was the general feeling that I got too.Baldr said:
There is constructive criticism and there is personal insults. I think it's very similar to how people think video game reviews can be objective, because they can't differentiate opinion from facts and they don't think that other people disagree, but that they are 'wrong' objectively.
I have to admit that, except for the fact that he developed Fez and recently told some guy on Twitter to 'kill himself', I know nothing about Phil Fish. I was hoping Jim would have been a bit more specific about when, where, why and how exactly Fish was getting harassed and the history that lead up to this.
I was and still am under the impression that telling someone to 'kill themselves' is inexcusable in pretty much every context, especially if it's just an online discussion, no matter what they did or said, and I am a bit disappointed that Jim didn't mention this, because I assumed this was a big part in the public outrage.
It's not the fact that he bit back, it's specifically about *how* he bit back, was my impression.
I can understand why, but at the same time, if he really enjoyed and had a passion for games, he'd instead use the criticism to grow as a creator and a person, instead of letting it drag him out of games.
Though I really don't understand sending death threats, especially to people who create games or whatnot. Unless you admit that it's full of subliminal messages that will turn children into racist, sexist sinners who will act on these feelings and commit crimes while feasting on the flesh of fetus they took from a woman, video games are just something used for entertainment purposes. Good or bad, they're meant to put you in a world other than your own, and not every game does for everyone. I don't think that playing a bad game, or even being an eccentric person who is trying to suck up to your boss or defend things that we don't fully understand is deserving a threat to your life or lively hood.
I think that criticism and hate speech should be classified. Criticism is a good thing, as it points out flaws in a way that isn't meant to destroy the passion of someone, but show things that they may have missed, in an effort to help them grow past their flaws, or alert others to the issues so that they can make decisions on purchases. Hate Speech is an attempt to hurt someone, whether or intentional or unintentionally, in which it has no merit or reason other than to fufill a need inside the one saying it. Not liking something based on opinion, and stating why in a polite manner, criticism; saying you hate something because it's faggy and that anyone who likes it should f- off because they're a bad so and so (trying to calm on the bad language), there's no need for that other to make that person good.
Finally paragraph, making it quick. When I first watched Jim's videos, the first few didn't capture me. It was what I was seeing and reading everywhere, about the same topics and very bland. However, I gave him a chance with the "Weird is not enough," and saw that, whether it was my own, or a large collection of criticism, he found a way to do what he was doing, but overcome the (then) flaw of being a white stone on white sand by making his opinions and topics stand out. Anyone who said that he was just stupid, or whatever they said, had no real reason to make that post and state that opinion, since it served no purpose. I don't get why people who have opinions that serve no purpose share them, as they just create drama, and destroy good things.
Though I really don't understand sending death threats, especially to people who create games or whatnot. Unless you admit that it's full of subliminal messages that will turn children into racist, sexist sinners who will act on these feelings and commit crimes while feasting on the flesh of fetus they took from a woman, video games are just something used for entertainment purposes. Good or bad, they're meant to put you in a world other than your own, and not every game does for everyone. I don't think that playing a bad game, or even being an eccentric person who is trying to suck up to your boss or defend things that we don't fully understand is deserving a threat to your life or lively hood.
I think that criticism and hate speech should be classified. Criticism is a good thing, as it points out flaws in a way that isn't meant to destroy the passion of someone, but show things that they may have missed, in an effort to help them grow past their flaws, or alert others to the issues so that they can make decisions on purchases. Hate Speech is an attempt to hurt someone, whether or intentional or unintentionally, in which it has no merit or reason other than to fufill a need inside the one saying it. Not liking something based on opinion, and stating why in a polite manner, criticism; saying you hate something because it's faggy and that anyone who likes it should f- off because they're a bad so and so (trying to calm on the bad language), there's no need for that other to make that person good.
Finally paragraph, making it quick. When I first watched Jim's videos, the first few didn't capture me. It was what I was seeing and reading everywhere, about the same topics and very bland. However, I gave him a chance with the "Weird is not enough," and saw that, whether it was my own, or a large collection of criticism, he found a way to do what he was doing, but overcome the (then) flaw of being a white stone on white sand by making his opinions and topics stand out. Anyone who said that he was just stupid, or whatever they said, had no real reason to make that post and state that opinion, since it served no purpose. I don't get why people who have opinions that serve no purpose share them, as they just create drama, and destroy good things.
