Necromancer Jim said:
xPixelatedx said:
I think this is a case of "an eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" here. Except it ends with the whole world being assholes to each other. If we're not going to act like he was a victim, we certainly can't act as if the people threatening to rape and murder his family were justified. Yes, he was an asshole. Yes, people were assholes to him. Is there karma for them? If that is in the form of people being assholes, will those people have karma after them?
Phil Fish certainly was not a nice man, I will not deny that. He seems like he was awful to a lot of people, but then it seems that many more people were much, much worse to him. He was a victim here, but he wasn't the only victim and he wasn't only a victim. The comments he made were not justified, nor was the sheer magnitude of hate he received. I won't deny that he was in the wrong, but the people insulting and threatening him certainly aren't in the right.
There is no karma for people uniting against a common enemy, and he simply made too many enemies in his short time with us. No, I don't agree that two wrongs make a right, but I am also not surprised in the LEAST at the conclusion this took.
You reap what you sow. The guy lathered his naked body with chum, and jumped into a pool of piranhas. Are we really supposed to feel bad about that? Are we supposed to blame the piranhas? People can only stand so much before they get pissed, and what you could be mistaken in suggesting is they should have kept their mouth shut and just took the beating he was dishing out. "
Gamers are horrible people", "
this ethnicity is stupid at making video games", etc. Should non-anonymous (and famous) people be able to bait everyone so thoroughly and come out totally unscathed? Is that really a more idealistic world?
Being so antagonistic himself, I can only surmise he thought the fact that he made videogames was a satisfactory shield against such opposition. The utter arrogance and sense of privilege that implies is just insane. When you talk to the world like you're a 14 year old 4chan poster, expect the world to talk back like 14 year old 4chan posters; that goes with ANY TOPIC. People really need to just try and be more decent human beings if they want the world to treat them better, because at the end of the day people really can surprise you in good ways. All you have to do is treat them with a bit of respect and decency, and convey controversial opinions in civilized manners.
As for the death threats? The whole "anonymous internet tough guy thing" is just that. We all know no one is hunting down his family, sending an alien invasion fleet to his house or anything so ludicrous. Taking people's insane claims on the internet as fact is a childish thing to do, especially given the context that this guy is just getting reverse trolled. People were just shouting disturbing things at him to try and get under his skin, and given his reaction, it worked. That's as much his fault as it is theirs, given he's a professional troll himself.
When your great debut to the world of gaming is "
Fuck all ya guyz", you can expect the rest of your career here to be filled with """abuse"""(there simply isn't enough quotation marks for that word). That isn't 'an eye for an eye',
it's reality.
The comments he made were not justified, nor was the sheer magnitude of hate he received.
That video I posted? He might not have committed a crime against humanity there, but he made himself out to be the absolute most loathsome kind of person imaginable, just in personality traits alone. You have to understand, what he did was the equivalent of beating up a physically disabled person (or anyone else who literally couldn't throw a punch back). When someone who has traveled so far comes up to you, and makes it clear they don't fully understand your language, the absolute worse thing you can do is immediately talk shit to them and then proceed to make-fun of them. Fish elaborating on his opinions didn't help either, because remember, that japanese guy barley understood English...
so how the hell was he supposed to argue or defend himself!? *spoiler warning*
he couldn't. They attacked someone who couldn't possibly have defended himself in front of a crowd, then pointed and laughed. Yeah, he both consciously and subconsciously advertised to the entire world from then on he was the worst, most pathetic kind of person.
People remember this kind of stuff forever, so every incident he incited from then on got over-reactions.
