Jimquisition: I'm Going To Murder Your Children
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Is it just me, or has Jim's episodes been less and less entertaining and more brow beating over time? Nothing better than being called a "sick fuck" when this was the first I've heard of the Dragon Age lady thing.
Yeah, I know he's not calling me a sick fuck personally, but white knights always leave a bitter taste in my mouth. Especially so when you chastise a crowd in order to speak to a few. Shoulda stuck to the dildo, Jim.
Yeah, I know he's not calling me a sick fuck personally, but white knights always leave a bitter taste in my mouth. Especially so when you chastise a crowd in order to speak to a few. Shoulda stuck to the dildo, Jim.
The fact that anyone ever feels the need to make a video like this to go "Hey, guess what, threatening to kill people or their children is something you really shouldn't do." makes me very sad.
It really does.
I know this is not specifically a gamer thing, and I know this is obviously a minority of gamers, but I just hate to see this community rely so heavily on death threats, and I hate even more to see that they are becoming a perfectly acceptable comeback to something that has displeased you.
I don't care how many people on the internet go "Oh, it's not a big deal, just brush it off." I will never accept that anything along the lines of "I'm going to kill you." "Go kill yourself." or "I hope you die." are perfectly rational and acceptable responses to someone. Even if it's just over the internet, and ESPECIALLY over something like video games.
It really does.
I know this is not specifically a gamer thing, and I know this is obviously a minority of gamers, but I just hate to see this community rely so heavily on death threats, and I hate even more to see that they are becoming a perfectly acceptable comeback to something that has displeased you.
I don't care how many people on the internet go "Oh, it's not a big deal, just brush it off." I will never accept that anything along the lines of "I'm going to kill you." "Go kill yourself." or "I hope you die." are perfectly rational and acceptable responses to someone. Even if it's just over the internet, and ESPECIALLY over something like video games.
Isn't it enough already?
I mean, if those People who would harass via internet are really just a vocal minority why is this still being reported all the time by gaming media? Gaming media reports some disagreeable people who write odd bullshit on the internet.
There is quite a lot of stuff on the internet that is giving these trolls far more attention then they deserve.
Trolling may or may not be a kind of a coping mechanism. It's generally accepted that trolls who would threaten violence, rape or death have a miserable existence.
Which is still no excuse for threats but on the other hand it is apparently a method to vent anger in the general direction where it comes from on someone who doesn't and/or shouldn't care about it. It's better that this and that miserable creature would call me disagreeable names rather then venting anger on People who may come in physical contact.
Would be even better if this person just shot a bunch of people and kept the mouth shut. If he/she doesn't, let a ban follow and/or a police investigation in some cases.
I had this odd experience where one dude was having a one sided rant about another guy and he swore and got progressively worse. By the time an admin showed up he was like "ima kill you! ima kill you!". Rape of female relatives was also mentioned, the usual.
I would very much like to have the police show up at his house to check if he forgot to put on his straight jacket this morning...
Anger management should be done in the videogame, not over the headset.
Or over twitter, where several developers decided it would be time for their own sexist, homophobic, racist or plain mean remarks.
Often times directly towards people who actually kept their cool.
Which makes me think that i'm being lumped in with those trolls.
Trolls are the only thing the gaming media has something about to say when it comes to community so apparently that's pretty much all there is and all there is to say about the videogaming community.
I mean, if those People who would harass via internet are really just a vocal minority why is this still being reported all the time by gaming media? Gaming media reports some disagreeable people who write odd bullshit on the internet.
There is quite a lot of stuff on the internet that is giving these trolls far more attention then they deserve.
Trolling may or may not be a kind of a coping mechanism. It's generally accepted that trolls who would threaten violence, rape or death have a miserable existence.
Which is still no excuse for threats but on the other hand it is apparently a method to vent anger in the general direction where it comes from on someone who doesn't and/or shouldn't care about it. It's better that this and that miserable creature would call me disagreeable names rather then venting anger on People who may come in physical contact.
Would be even better if this person just shot a bunch of people and kept the mouth shut. If he/she doesn't, let a ban follow and/or a police investigation in some cases.
I had this odd experience where one dude was having a one sided rant about another guy and he swore and got progressively worse. By the time an admin showed up he was like "ima kill you! ima kill you!". Rape of female relatives was also mentioned, the usual.
I would very much like to have the police show up at his house to check if he forgot to put on his straight jacket this morning...
Anger management should be done in the videogame, not over the headset.
Or over twitter, where several developers decided it would be time for their own sexist, homophobic, racist or plain mean remarks.
Often times directly towards people who actually kept their cool.
Which makes me think that i'm being lumped in with those trolls.
Trolls are the only thing the gaming media has something about to say when it comes to community so apparently that's pretty much all there is and all there is to say about the videogaming community.
It does, because it is everything to do with game culture.Legion said:
And that illustrates why we have to deal with the sexism issue within gaming. These are issues which affect far broader groups, society as a whole has these incredibly sexist elements, and they do tend towards the more violent end of the spectrum.
And we aren't separate from that, we are just enthusiasts for one form of expression. If we do not fight against that form becoming more sexist, or racist or just generally more bigoted we end up as a haven for those precise same people who send death threats to politicians who want women more represented on currency.
It doesn't matter that it is a minority, it is the perception that has been built. It is what is hitting the papers - and it is how we are seen. And how we are seen to some extent comes out to being what audience is getting attracted.
You can say it is unfair, you can claim to not be like that, but so long as gamers are issuing death threats, only to get defended by somebody going on about how the person receiving the threats somehow deserves it, then it is a valid criticism of game culture.
WTF, Dragon age 2 story was great. It was the level design that was poopy! KILL THE LEVEL DESIGNERS KIDS! DUH!
so just continue like i normally do for 7 days? no problem. fortunately, i'm not one of those people. keep up the good work, sterling.
I thought the hate she got was because she suggested that games should have less gameplay for people who find them difficult, and not the quality of her writing?
I do think it reflects badly on gamers when our collective response to a person in the industry being harassed is kind of `Well, they had [x opinion] what do they expect?`. This could have something more to do with internet culture in general, but I don't think it's a coincidence that it happens in gaming so much.
But I imagine if we just pass around that Penny Arcade picture and stick our collective heads in the sand we can ignore this until it happens again next week, right?
Nice episode, Jim. Looking forward to the one on DLC.
EDIT: Really, now it's `white-knighting` to say that maybe people who threaten to murder someone's children are fucked up?
Stay classy, escapists.
But I imagine if we just pass around that Penny Arcade picture and stick our collective heads in the sand we can ignore this until it happens again next week, right?
Nice episode, Jim. Looking forward to the one on DLC.
EDIT: Really, now it's `white-knighting` to say that maybe people who threaten to murder someone's children are fucked up?
Stay classy, escapists.
I can put up with a lot of shit in my life... but I am a dad. threaten my sons and I will end your miserable little life. the slime that threatened this woman's family did was beyond reprehensible, it was actually criminal.
I hope Bioware saved the IP addresses of the posters, I hope she prosecutes, and I hope the brats who did this spend a few weeks in jail to shock them back into the reality that they are not that important.
I hope Bioware saved the IP addresses of the posters, I hope she prosecutes, and I hope the brats who did this spend a few weeks in jail to shock them back into the reality that they are not that important.
It's because we don't get much as far as professionalism out of gaming journalism. It's as sensationalistic as regular news in America. Just the way the world works. Gotta get those hits and such.Madman123456 said:
Jim might have some good intentions behind this video, but it was poorly thought out and indicative of the lack of calm, rational discussion that the gaming scene really needs right now.
For those of us in the middle, who just play games and do our best to support the medium, we're surrounded by white nights and assholes alike. And that's just the fucking way it is.
Because the rest of the world doesn't see individuals, the rest of the world only sees the collective and the actions of these few very vocal morons are seen to be the example of the entire collective.Retrograde said:
Why am I having to explain this?
