wulf3n said:
I can only speak for myself, but I don't want people getting offended or flagging posts on my behalf. If I being the offended party haven't flagged the post, then I have a reason for doing so. Flagging a post for me only serves to undermine my decision.
I don't see it as apathy, more stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours. I don't flag post on behalf of others because I don't wont people flagging posts on behalf of me.
Its not about you. It doesn't matter if you choose to flag the post or not, a lot of people don't report threats of violence or insults, that doesn't mean nothing gets done. A person threatening or harassing you may be harassing multiple people either prior or after you. Its the community's decision to deal with problem posters, regardless of your decision.
tardcore said:
As I've stated before, this part of "we" doesn't do that. And its not your right to prejudge and presume that anyone does. The fact that you are doing so does not make you any better morally than someone who uses a blanket bias or prejudice to demonize an entire demographic of people.
Did I say the majority of this community was harrassing others? Did I say that the members of this community insult people in online play? No, I don't believe I did. What I did say was that the vast majority of gamers do nothing to curtail it and that is just as bad.
tardcore said:
Not a single person posting here has said that someone has the right to threaten the lives of others or those of their children or that its a good and positive thing. If they had you might have an argument.
Well no, not in this thread....But I did just come back from seeing someone state that we should euthanize the mentally ill.
tardcore said:
That's how dictatorships start, mate.
Actually, most dictatorships start with a military coup and I'm afraid my subterrain mole army is in no shape for that quite yet.
tardcore said:
You are demanding I do only what you tell me and turn on people who don't think like you do and attack them with ridicule and derision.
No, I'm not, I'm asking you to take a moment and bring attention to those who mean ill will to the others around you. You know, because as a community, that's what we should do. Are you telling me you don't call the cops if someone is screaming and threatening your neighbor?
tardcore said:
Well if that isn't a text book definition of bullying I just don't know what the fuck is.
Did you just call me a bully because I asked for a community that rejects the extremists? Really?
tardcore said:
Looks like my earlier accusation of you wanting to create a mindless internet lynch mob was spot on.
Yep, you got me, everyone break out the torches. Lets go hang someone tonight /sarcasm.
tardcore said:
Wow. Really? Only through negativity can you get anything done?
No! Fuck man, only through negativity will anything be brought to attention.
tardcore said:
Well then fuck Gandhi, Fuck Martin Luther King.
What textbooks are you reading? Do you think Gandhi enjoyed a foriegn ruled India? Do you think Martin Luther enjoyed sitting in a Blacks-Only bar? Dude, not only are you misinterpreting what I said, you're misinterpreting history and that's pretty tough. They saw the negatives of their existence as a community and they went out and they changed it. They denounced violence and encouraged community solidarity against those who would threaten them. Ghandi encourgaed a self-sustained India, MLK encouraged people to sit at white only areas. They refused to be bullied by others and stood fast in a single community, empathetic to one another.
tardcore said:
Guess I'll just go burn the books about them and start reading Mein Kampf.
And now I'm encouraging Nazism apparently! ZE HEIL!
tardcore said:
Thanks for justifying that people uses such ultimate negetivities as death threats, because apparently according to you, there is no such thing as positive reinforcement.
Where the fuck did I say that? Seriously, are you like in an alternate dimension or you getting my slightly more evil twin's messages? I said postive reinforcements does not encourage progress as quickly as pointing out the negative aspects of our society? Positive reinforcements is what allowed Stalinism to survive for so long, because the people refused to accept the problems with it and instead believed they were best off.
tardcore said:
Well that's interesting because back up the post that's exactly what you told me I wasn't allowed to fucking do.
No, I said you shouldn't be arguing against a proven positive aspect. Never told you to stop, just thought you were acting silly for doing so.
tardcore said:
Quite likely the same justification the warped individuals who thought it was ok to threaten to kill someone's kids tell themselves.
You got me there, not gonna lie. That was a good one. Probably also the same justification that you used to call me a nazi, a bully and a dictator. Seriously mate, I think you're also getting a tad bit overemotional.
tardcore said:
Sorry but I don't feel that just focusing on the negatives without enforcing them with positives gets you anywhere. It just breeds anger angst hatred and contempt.
Mind telling me how encouraging one another to report posters who bully or threaten others and to encourage an overall solidified community of gamer is not a positive aspect?
tardcore said:
All this weeks video and these subsequent posts have served to do is to alienate and demonize people with which you share common ground. The shared belief that its wrong to threaten to kill someone or their children.
tardcore said:
How have I alienated them? The only people I have complained about besides the extremists and bullies, are the ones who do nothing to stop the extremists and bullies and even I'm guilty of falling into that catagory.
tardcore said:
If this is what can be expected from the future of The Escapist then count me out. As apparently it isn't the website of keen open-minded intellectuals I thought it was.
Fine, not gonna stop ya. You've already proven you're just gonna twist whatever I write anyways and I'll admit, its kinda getting really annoying.