Jimquisition: Sexual Failing

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Jimothy Sterling

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Sexual Failing

Some developers will have you believe they are purveyors of tasteful, mature, adult sexual content. Some developers are talking out of their arses.

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Marohen

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I've actually been thinking on this matter for a fair while now. Thanks for bringing it out in the open, Jim!
 

AntiChri5

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Clearly, whatever devs he is "correcting" in this vid got to it. Nowhere is safe.......
 

Something Amyss

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CorvusFerreum said:
Weaver said:
Orcboyphil said:
Anybody else getting a stream not found message?
I am, I can't watch it either :(
Dito.

Perhaps he was trying to talk about Garry's Incident and got the video removed preemptively?
Nah. I'm getting the same "Stream Not Found" error that Unskippable was giving this morning. I'm guessing they're working on it.

But just in case, I'm posting that I'm getting it so more people know.
 

Andy Shandy

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As someone who was able to watch it, good video Jim. Mass Effect especially has always felt like "Say good thing, get bare asses, achievement unlocked".

Cracked up at the Heavy Rain footage as well.
 

Goliath100

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Why do this feel like filler episode? Maybe because this should be bloody obvious for everyone. Know what, would probably be more progressive and mature to just make it a one-night stand and drop the talking.
 

Dr.Awkward

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Personally, I think such explicit scenes such as sex are better left to the player's imagination. If people like your game enough, you can assure yourself that the more explicit of actions are taken care of by fan fiction - No need to include it in your game. You can still hint at some explicit actions, but really, some things are better off not seen.
 

orangeapples

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I like God of War's approach to sex. You get a mini-game and if you do bad the girls are disappointed and Kratos just stands there thinking, "I swear, this has never happened to me before. Let me try it again." because that's all sex is, right? a really awkward minigame with quicktime events and a failstate that leaves everyone disappointed and some people crying in shame. but you do get better with practice.
 

Tombsite

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Thank you Jim. Now when ever I talk to people about how stupid sex in video games is I can just link to this. You hit every single one of my problems with this topic in this one. Way to knock it out of the park.

Worst offender: Jack in Mass Effect 2
 

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For everyone having problems viewing the video, we are looking into the issue. Thank you for your patience and Thank God for Jim.
 

CorvusFerreum

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Zachary Amaranth said:
CorvusFerreum said:
Weaver said:
Orcboyphil said:
Anybody else getting a stream not found message?
I am, I can't watch it either :(
Dito.

Perhaps he was trying to talk about Garry's Incident and got the video removed preemptively?
Nah. I'm getting the same "Stream Not Found" error that Unskippable was giving this morning. I'm guessing they're working on it.

But just in case, I'm posting that I'm getting it so more people know.
I'm sure it is a technical error. It just was a feeble attempt at humour.
 

Caostotale

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The whole idea that the gaming industry can provide a mature, adult experience is about as ridiculous as thinking that TV shows, blockbuster films, or pop music tracks can provide mature, adult experiences. By and large, those sectors of the entertainment industry only succeed because they provide a constant supply of adolescent fantasy fodder, i.e. that territory of primal 'feeding, f*#king, fighting' wish-fulfillment that attracts people of all ages. If people wanted to act adult or mature, they probably wouldn't bother playing games, watching movies, listening to sexually-charged music, etc... These things provide escapes from the perceived dreariness of adult life, act as denials of one's own mortality, serve as outlets from a life beset by limitations, etc... If anything, as the economy presses further on towards the global capitalist peak, these forms of entertainment are bound to become even more immature, more pandering to the above-mentioned three F's. At least that's how I felt after seeing footage of recent hits like GTA V.
 

MatsVS

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Aye aye... I enjoy romance in games, but the sex scenes themselves are usually cringe worthy at best. SWTOR has the characters kiss, then a fade to black, and it is just as well really. That said, romance and search for love is such a vital part of the human experience, simply foregoing it makes no sense either. I just wish we could have someone making video games who could, you know, ACTUALLY WRITE.
 

Legion

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Not that I disagree with what you say, but I think it'd have been good to say what you think the alternative to it is. It's all well and good pointing out how the sex scenes are often done poorly, but you never really say how they could do it maturely.

Judging from what you say, I cannot think of a scenario where sex could be shown in a game that you'd consider to be mature. Especially as you mention it not affecting the story as a reason for it being pointless.

It is difficult enough to do anything sexual without accusations of pandering as it is. Considering actually showing sexual content can always be avoided by the use of implication and such, I don't think it is really possible to include it without some people claiming it is fan service.

Granted in a lot of cases it is, but by extension many people seem to think it always is, because they have become so cynical about it.
 

FoolKiller

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I agree with the Bioware habit, but I think that in Heavy Rain it was just two emotional and tired people relieving stress. It happens.

I just wish that Jim would stop acting like Mass Effect is where Bioware started with this concept. Sure it was the first one where they showed more than first base, but they were already having threesomes in Jade Empire. And that also fell in line with be nice, get laid.
 

Sylocat

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This is a new low. It plays the ad, TWICE, but not the video itself.