"If EA Pulled the shit..."Butcer said:typical steam apologists, if ea pulled the shit valve does everybody would scream bloody murdergirzwald said:How many of these are you going to make? Steam has some shit titles. Get over it already. Did you buy "War operations"? Because it seems like you did. Congratulations. You just supported the problem. Most of these games you've been bitching about, I never heard of till you brought them up. I guess that shows how much of an impact these games have. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Its that simple. If morons want to buy a game without seeing a demo or reading a review, then that's their problem. I so rarely get screwed by buying a shitty game, its a non problem. Do you whine when you buy a new food product and don't like it? No, you don't buy it again and move on.
So move on already. Without greenlight we wouldn't have the opportunity to find the gems amongst the crap.
Someone who doesn't like to be deceived, for one.josemlopes said:Who are you to say what is and isnt worth it?
I hear about those a lot, but am curious as to how useful were those restrictions when they were around? It didn't stop companies like LJN from releasing barely-playable garbage based on every licensed property in sight. It didn't stop Konami from setting up the shell corporation Ultra Games so that they could publish twice as many games. Having seen things like Cheetah Men, I suppose the market could have been much sloppier, but I feel like the market was plenty sloppy during the last few generations (I feel like I've seen Bible games for the DS and ridiculous amounts of junk like 50-Games-In-ONE!, all being sold at Gamestop, Walmart, etc...) and nothing went awry for the first-party releases on the GBA, DS, etc...NoeL said:Reminds me of what happened with Atari back in the 80's. Valve needs to set up some kind of publisher restrictions like Nintendo did with the NES.
I always associated their logo with Earth 2150-2160 (I cannot remember if they published the latter) and now, like you I am very sad. Such a source of nostalgia and decent quality, crippled by their own doing.IamLEAM1983 said:What's really sad is Strategy First used to be a fairly decent publisher, something Montreal natives like me could be proud of. Over the last thirteen years or so, I've seen them go from trying to push decent strategy or turn-based titles to grabbing literally ANYTHING and sticking it up for sale on Steam. I'll admit that they've turned into high-class shit peddlers, but I suspect they're doing what they do just to keep existing as a publisher.
At this point, they're really better off closing their doors.
Steam apologist? That's new. And pretty dumb. So what do you suggest? Valve introduce some sort of "quality control"? Aside from being completely unoriginal...its the exact opposite of what greenlight was supposed to be. A way for small developers to get their games distributed and not have to pass through the industry gate keepers or blow money on advertisement. If they do what you say and valve sets up some sort of "quality control". So valve has to hire people to test games. Which means indie developers, who are already strapped for cash, have to now pay valve (either through straight up paying them or a larger cut of sales) to test their game and use some sort of arbitrary criteria to say whether its "good enough".Butcer said:typical steam apologists, if ea pulled the shit valve does everybody would scream bloody murdergirzwald said:How many of these are you going to make? Steam has some shit titles. Get over it already. Did you buy "War operations"? Because it seems like you did. Congratulations. You just supported the problem. Most of these games you've been bitching about, I never heard of till you brought them up. I guess that shows how much of an impact these games have. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Its that simple. If morons want to buy a game without seeing a demo or reading a review, then that's their problem. I so rarely get screwed by buying a shitty game, its a non problem. Do you whine when you buy a new food product and don't like it? No, you don't buy it again and move on.
So move on already. Without greenlight we wouldn't have the opportunity to find the gems amongst the crap.
QFTCaostotale said:I hear about those a lot, but am curious as to how useful were those restrictions when they were around? It didn't stop companies like LJN from releasing barely-playable garbage based on every licensed property in sight. It didn't stop Konami from setting up the shell corporation Ultra Games so that they could publish twice as many games. Having seen things like Cheetah Men, I suppose the market could have been much sloppier, but I feel like the market was plenty sloppy during the last few generations (I feel like I've seen Bible games for the DS and ridiculous amounts of junk like 50-Games-In-ONE!, all being sold at Gamestop, Walmart, etc...) and nothing went awry for the first-party releases on the GBA, DS, etc...NoeL said:Reminds me of what happened with Atari back in the 80's. Valve needs to set up some kind of publisher restrictions like Nintendo did with the NES.
Europa and heart of iron are published by paradox interactive.Dragoen said:Disciples II: Dark ProphecyV da Mighty Taco said:Wow, that's actually a pretty good comparison. However, I have heard rumors from the deep that LJN did produce a lone good game. Can the same be said of StratFirst?Atmos Duality said:So basically, this week's episode is dedicated to "Steam's LJN".
Hearts of Iron
Europa Universalis
Earth 2150: Lost Souls
Etherlords II
Galactic Civilizations
FlatOut 3: Chaos & Destruction
Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood
Sudden Strike
Jagged Alliance series
O.R.B: Off-World Resource Base
Space Empires V
All incredible games, especially Disciples 2.
Sadly they seem to have fallen far since.
Dude, there is a thing called the internet, use it. How hard is it to make some basic research about a game before buying? This doesnt even apply just to games but basicly everything like cars, TVs, consoles, movies, eletronics, etc...Zachary Amaranth said:Someone who doesn't like to be deceived, for one.josemlopes said:Who are you to say what is and isnt worth it?