theApoc said:
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They did not "ignore" their consumers. They catered to them.
That's completely out of sync with the results, sorry. They didn't cater to the consumers.
They ignored the fickle gaming community and got bashed for it.
Apparently, that's the market they need, since the Xbone was getting hammered otherwise. Which still makes what they did stupid.
It actually is a software thing, which is getting better all of the time. The kinect is an amazing device when considering how cheap it is to make. LOTS of researchers are using the device for some pretty crazy things, none of which have anything to do with gaming. MS should double down on it as a peripheral and ignore it in terms of gaming.
You do understand part of why they do those amazing things is that it's not tied to an Xbone, right? And that they were doing it with the weaker Kinect that wasn't forcibly included in the 360 setup? And that the applications aren't in-line with its purpose as-is? I'm not sure how that helps the argument, since they haven't integrated it in the way you were claiming. Other people actually found reasons to use it, and that's great. A shame Microsoft couldn't do the same.
Entertainment console. For all of the claims that they lied about XBOX ONE, it has been presented a a multi-media hub from day one.
And I said largely, so you're not even really arguing here. Gaming is still a huge reason people buy it. Or don't buy it, as the case may be. Now, if you want to pretend otherwise, that would at least be stating something contrary. But to point out that it's an "entertainment hub" is meaningless.
Either that, or the rest of the market just doesn't freaking want it. Take it however you want.
Gamers don't want it, and only gamers thinks PS4 is "winning" any more than Wii won last time. Units sold are great, but usage, something that has been growing dramatically for MS and XBLA, well that is something else altogether. "Eaten alive" that's funny...
Yeah, how absurd to think that being outstripped in sales, and forced to scale back nearly everything you claimed was integral to your vision counts as something bad. Again, you're not speaking in terms congruous with reality. I'm also not sure what's funny, unless you're agreeing with me that it's hilarious watching Microsoft completely backtrack on, well...everything. But I'm pretty sure you're not, so...what's so funny about Microsoft being forced to tuck tail because consumers don't give a crap?
These are not the actions of a company succeeding with the market they were courting.
And you know who realized this? MS.
You're contradicting yourself again.
Which is why XBOX ONE was not designed to be a super gaming rig with 3k worth of parts inside.
Since nobody's talking about anything that extreme a case, that sounds an awful lot like a strawman argument.
If people want 8k graphics, guess what, they will do that on a PC.
Come now, Microsoft is struggling to get 1080. And they were the ones promoting shiny new graphics. Which should hurt your argument more than help it.
Fruit Ninja need next gen? Fez? Peggle? Because those are the things that a lot of average people are playing, just like they are using netflx, hulu, youtube, redbox, etc.
Then an Xbone should sell well and not be dwarfed by the competition to the point that they're forced to backtrack on almost everything they claimed was integral.
Since that didn't happen....
But you're also stuck with the unfortunate fact that this isn't a new idea or unique to Microsoft, as both Microsoft and Sony made consoles designed as media hubs last gen
Um, no. The built a device that was right in line with what people were ready to have in their living room.
Evidently not.
Yup it plays games, and it does it just as well as PS4, anyone who tell you differently is to nerdy to matter.
Hmm...Insulting people who disagree with you is probably a poor way to get things done.
But even still, if the nerds didn't matter, then Microsoft wouldn't have reversed course as it has.