I think we can all agree that Ubisoft hates PC about as much as Atlus hates Europe. Which is a lot.
Jimquisition: Ubisoft - A Sad History of PC Failures
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Jim, Jim, Jim. Don't you understand? Ubisoft's DRM was successful at keeping PC piracy down to a paltry 95%! Why, without it, at least 250% of those scumbag PC gamers would've pirated their games! Everybody knows that PC gamers never, ever pay a dime for games without onerous, gamebreaking DRM- just ask Valve, or Good Old Games!
...hoo boy. I wish I could say I was the least bit surprised. Of course, you have to look askance at anonymous sources and all, but haven't we already seen this drama play out?SomeGuySomewhereHere said:
Yeah....me too...I was stupid enough to buy some origin games in a sale as well. Dead Space 3 coop, broken (STILL), BF3 coop, broken (STILL).An Ceannaire said:
Which reminds me, so is the new splinter cell coop. I really, REALLY dont see why companies with so much resources manage to make games with so many connection problems, and then small, more or less broke indie-publishers manage to make flawless connection games. How? HOW?!
I just have to learn to say no. Maybe they'll get the picture in the end.
On the flip side, I just pre-ordered Witcher 3 from GoG. And I felt all warm and fuzzy inside when I did too.
Well, that was an interesting read. I wonder if there is actually some way to try this practice as false marketing, and put an end to it?SomeGuySomewhereHere said:
Edit: Too bad we'll probably have to wait until next year to see if the claim is correct.
Edit 2: I own a bunch of Ubisoft games on console and they've all worked well and I've had no issues with Uplay. And I own one Ubisoft title on the PC. That's more than enough, because Uplay on PC is just in the way.
They should rename themselves to OopsieSoft.Muspelheim said:
But after reading some of Penny Arcade's Tales from the Trenches and even with taking the stories with a grain of salt I am convinced that the computer gaming industry as a whole wouldn't know a good idea if it walked up to them and shook their hand. Basic Common Sense seems to have left the room and wandered into Raccoon City and the public just keeps taking it like its got a strong case of masochism or something.
Yeah, that was one thing that has bugged me about Ubisoft. They only want to make games that they can make franchises out of. I loved Assassin's Creed, but after hearing them claim that they only want to make franchises, I haven't picked up any of the games past the second (which I didn't even finish).lukesparow said:
Hell, I have next to no interest in Watch Dogs. The entire reason is that I knew from Day One that it was gonna force some sort of cliff hanger ending so that it could be milked into a franchise.
Not every game needs to be a franchise! Sometimes, a good game can be made simply by making it a good stand alone game. And sometimes you can make a franchise that doesn't require a guide to the whole thing, like with Mario or Final Fantasy. You can pick up any game in the series (I'm not counting the direct FF spin offs) and be fine.
Honestly, that whole attitude makes me wary of Ubisoft franchises. Never mind the DRM and other such nonsense. EA is kinda worse on that front since even consoles need to connect to EA servers to play DLC, not that I'm defending Ubisoft.
Funny how the topic came up just as I was proclaiming I was done with Ubi. I actualy feel ashamed and slightly dirty for having forked over money to them in the past few months.
With EA and Ubi off the list, I'm down to 2K, Deep Silver and Sqeenix for 3rd party publishers I feel comfortable with paying.
With EA and Ubi off the list, I'm down to 2K, Deep Silver and Sqeenix for 3rd party publishers I feel comfortable with paying.
Yeah, Um UPlay made me not play thru games I typically play thru multiple times, multiple times. Like Heroes of MIght and magic 6 if I wanted to start clean, I'd have to buy a totally new game. I might be wrong there.
But I played thru once, and sorta wanted to start fresh, but couldn't. Because dunno.
But I didn't have a problem with Far Cry 3. What I'm getting at, is while they are bad, calling them EA, or Activision is like comparing Obama to Hitler.
Sure Obama and Hitler are bother charismatic leaders of men. but the comparison is dumb and you should be ashamed for making it.
Ubisoft is a competant game company that makes games many people like, for the consoles. sure it makes inept and ham fisted PC games, but its not like activision or EA.
Activision decided to release Starcraft 2 in 3 games that were basically done in the first game and the other two are just maps or something and the Diablo 3 was all Ebay with them getting that 20% of their cash sales or whatever. Things that are annoying and made to make them more money.
Ubisoft just puts things in there to be annoying, do they make lots of money from UPlay?
EA, I want to say I've never purchased a game from EA i haven't been disappointed with, but thats not true. you got your Mass effect and Dragon Age, Portal was good apparently.
But they Frequently make games that LOOK good that are just disappointing and you get the feeling that their few actual good games are like the machines near the doors of the casino that actually pay out to get people to come inside and lose money on the games that are not good and whose trailers were a lie.
Dragon age 1 was good so that dragon age 2 could get away with being utter s***, and Dragon age 3 can just be better than 2 and make money. sort of thing.
But I played thru once, and sorta wanted to start fresh, but couldn't. Because dunno.
But I didn't have a problem with Far Cry 3. What I'm getting at, is while they are bad, calling them EA, or Activision is like comparing Obama to Hitler.
Sure Obama and Hitler are bother charismatic leaders of men. but the comparison is dumb and you should be ashamed for making it.
Ubisoft is a competant game company that makes games many people like, for the consoles. sure it makes inept and ham fisted PC games, but its not like activision or EA.
Activision decided to release Starcraft 2 in 3 games that were basically done in the first game and the other two are just maps or something and the Diablo 3 was all Ebay with them getting that 20% of their cash sales or whatever. Things that are annoying and made to make them more money.
Ubisoft just puts things in there to be annoying, do they make lots of money from UPlay?
EA, I want to say I've never purchased a game from EA i haven't been disappointed with, but thats not true. you got your Mass effect and Dragon Age, Portal was good apparently.
But they Frequently make games that LOOK good that are just disappointing and you get the feeling that their few actual good games are like the machines near the doors of the casino that actually pay out to get people to come inside and lose money on the games that are not good and whose trailers were a lie.
Dragon age 1 was good so that dragon age 2 could get away with being utter s***, and Dragon age 3 can just be better than 2 and make money. sort of thing.
Uh, I forgot Far Cry, I bought FC3. It appears I'm not completely innocent here, I feel ashamedThreeName said:
That was a good PC port, btw, I didn't have any issues with it. It looked great, it was well optimized and surprisingly bug-free. Weird, huh?...
Ubi didn't make FC1, It was Crytek that made it and Ubi just published. It was after FC1 that Ubi took over the development of the series leading to Crytek telling them to shove it where the sun doesn't shine and making Crysis with EA as a publisher. Yeah Ubi was so bad a developer told them to go fuck themselves.ThreeName said:
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Jim, FC2 had limited installs back in 2008. A total of 5 installs with a revoke tool that didn't always work. Within 2 months of having the game and playing with friends online in multiplayer I had to download a pirate copy to play the game that I purchased because of the DRM making it unplayable. 1 install lost because I did a hardware upgrade and I didn't know it would count that as a new install, 1 lost because of a hardware failure, the rest were lost because the revoke tool did not revoke even if it said it was successful so 1 install on a different PC while visiting family and 2 more upgrades. Then they supposedly removed the limited install because it wasn't working and yet I have to still use pirated copy because the digital download from Ubisoft still had the limited install DRM the last time I installed.
So to bring back limited installs in 2011 when it was a complete failure that they had to remove in 2008 tells me that Ubisoft is willing to screw paying customers over by implementing DRM they know just screws paying customers over without doing a thing to pirates. They knew it wouldn't work because it failed the first time they tried it. That makes the second attempt by far worse than you made it out to be in the video.
With Saints Row 2, CD Projekt did the absolute worst PC port I've ever seen. That was the only time I had to use a mod, an ini file and timing a part of the game with a stopwatch to get a game to be playable. It still wasn't the most stable game. Also, for some reason gameplay was capped at 30 fps while cinematics were at 60 fps which is utterly bizarre.Thanatos2k said:
dont worry. you are not alone.An Ceannaire said:
i have many games. especially the AC series. even though i never really had any issues with any of these titles or that uplay caused me any huge problems that i could not play the games i have on it, but i sure do admit that its a problematic DRM with its downloads and even purchasing a title is not easy.
the way i see it, EA seems to have a better reputation now than ubisoft. at least origin is working fine and easy to buy from and doesnt stop you from playing your games. so if i have to choose now between one of them, i go for EA.
I'm highly tempted to make an animated GIF about getting the popcorn ready. But that means I'd need to make popcorn. Also, my most recent attempt at making an animated gif was 38MB large.ResonanceSD said:
I'm not very good at this.
Point being, I agree with you on this. I don't understand it either. Sometimes it's hilarious, but sometimes, I'm actually really disappointed by it.