Jimquisition: Videogames Are Not Movies, Get Over It

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DTWolfwood

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Meh

the only emotion i get from listening to this jackass.

the man rehashes points everyone has already mentioned and dear god listening to him is painful. Safe to say i wont be watching another unless it gets over 500 comments the next day.
 

Cherry Cola

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He just said the exact same thing that was said in Charlie Brooker's Gameswipe, without actually having any ideas on how to fix it.

I'll need to see more from this guy to decide whether or not he's good.

Also, presentation sucks arseface
 

HotFezz8

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interesting, didn't say anything new or add anything to the argument, but i agree with most of what he said, so ill watch the next one...

that said loose some weight, you sounded breathless halfway through, i was half expecting you to fall over.
 

FedericoV

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I like Jim. I like the fact that he respects games for what they are and not for what they should be if compared with other forms of narrative. I loved his "fun is paramount" video on destructoid. But I agree, that video was a little bit repetitive.
 

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I'm someone who values story above all else in games (most of the time) but to say its the "best" medium in my opinion is just as bad as comparing it to films. YES you have interaction. but that's all that sets gaming apart when it comes to storytelling, you control it. The rest is storytelling, using that core mechanic to let the player experience it rather than be taken there.

theatre is about imagination; talking heads. Books are about creating images in your mind. Film is about showing you a story without the need for engaging the viewer, they can just switch off and be immersed and in Games you are the hero and go through the story at your own pace. you experience it rather than watch it or read it.

Yes they ARE different, but all mediums have their place, film just happens to be the only other visual medium that follows the same kind of conventions. I notice how he didn't mention Uncharted. that's nothing more than an interactive movie and people went crazy for that...


There will never BE a Citezen Kane of games because you CANT TELL Citezen Kane as a game. Each medium has its own strengths and weaknesses. None are superior.
 

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So it's essentially Yahtzee with more dick jokes, an inferior premise, and no humor...
Or it's Moviebob with more cursing and all entertainment value removed...
Or Extra Credits without any relevant intellectual discussion and industry commentary...

Sorry Escapist, I know that these kind of soapbox commentary shows have brought a lot of attention to the site, but that doesn't mean we need more of them. Especially ones that seem to have the intellectual value (and production value) of an angry Youtube lurker with a webcam.

We really don't need another angry guy with an accent right now, and we probably won't need another one any time soon.
 

uppitycracker

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Really? This guy is on the escapist now? And I had such respect for this site. Fuckin tool, get send him back to destructoid
 

senorfatso

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I always thought that the Jimquistion always paled in comparison to Rev Rant, an older, similar show Destructoid used to run with Anthony Burch.
 

uppitycracker

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Sakurazaki1023 said:
So it's essentially Yahtzee with more dick jokes, an inferior premise, and no humor...
Or it's Moviebob with more cursing and all entertainment value removed...
Or Extra Credits without any relevant intellectual discussion and industry commentary...

Sorry Escapist, I know that these kind of soapbox commentary shows have brought a lot of attention to the site, but that doesn't mean we need more of them. Especially ones that seem to have the intellectual value (and production value) of an angry Youtube lurker with a webcam.

We really don't need another angry guy with an accent right now, and we probably won't need another one any time soon.
This guy is basically just a lousy troll that thinks because he can feel strongly about things that go against the grain, it makes an entertaining video as well as a valid point. But no, he's just a tool that likes to piss people off and pretend it's controversial.
 

Rararaz

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That was pretty rubbish. Guess I will give it a go again over the next couple of weeks before I make a final decision on it but I felt it was way too long, repetitive and lacked the genuine insight of something like Extra Credits. Also I wonder if the actual point was lost in the attempts to come off as edgy and angry.
 

Dak_N_Jaxter

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"Stop giving a shit about Roger Ebert"

I'm so glad someone finally fucking said it.

Really, the defensiveness people project concerning his view on games just serves to validate his opinions.
 

TwistedEllipses

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I'm not a fan, that doesn't mean I won't come around. At the moment though, it was just a guy who had nicked Ashens' suit and went off on a half-baked rant. He just kept repeating and repeating the fact they're different mediums and not going into any depth. Whatsmore this is a tired argument and one better made by others. If I want an entertaining rant I'll go to ZP and if I want well-reasoned argument I'll go to extra credits...
 

ChupathingyX

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Ok you hate Heavy Rain, that's your opinion.

And you spent a whole episode telling us something that I'm pretty sure most of us are already aware of.

This seemed like just some long rant and nothing informative, so not a great first episode.
 

Artemicion

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The fact that you used final fantasy ix music is enough that I will continue watching this series.
 

beniki

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Yes, let's ignore one of societies biggest past times, and remove any influence it has on games, because they're different.

Let's not call someone the Speilberg of video games, because he's a movie guy. His affect and contribution to the development of the medium isn't what people are talking about at all. They're saying that video games are below movies.

And yes it's true! No one has ever likened anything in a movie to another art form. No one ever says each frame is like a painting. No one ever likened the soundtrack of a film to Beethoven.

And of course! The start-middle-end structure of a story is completely ridiculous for games! I don't know why no one thought of this before! Video games shouldn't have a coherent plot! Because, you know, they're different from movies and books.

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Video games are not movies. That is about the only thing you got right. Saying that a game selling itself on it's cinematic merit, is not evidence that people think films are better. It's them saying their game is kind of like a film. It's just another way to make a game. Like Fantasia is just another way to may a movie. It's basically just a long orchestral piece with pretty pictures.

Putting aside the fact that your argument is as flimsy as any other internet rant, we already have a library of intelligent videos addressing this in more detail. Why has the Escapist put this on here? You're basically a fan version of Movie Bob's Big Picture... and he's better at it than you.

No offence, but your niche is already filled. And you're kind of an idiot.
 

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Got through about 40 seconds (including the idiotic intro) before quitting. Will not be watching this crap again.

And as has been said, why does everything need to be a fucking video? Why can't you just, I don't know, write an article?
 

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Jim Sterling said:
Videogames Are Not Movies, Get Over It

Let gaming's biggest douchebag explain to you how games aren't films, films aren't games, and David Cage will never be a moviemaker.

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I liked this, A tiny bit over obnoxious and long-winded but overall a good listen.