A part of me seriously wishes for Jim to be president. Jesters of the Moon for the National Anthem would be pretty fucking cool.
Which isn't theft.Dusk17 said:I dont understand how you can say piracy is not theft. It is the use of a product or service without paying for it.
Dusk17 said:I dont understand how you can say piracy is not theft. It is the use of a product or service without paying for it. It doesnt matter why you pirate games it is still theft. Even those who defend it by saying they will pay later it doesnt change the fact that you stole a product, it doesnt work on credit like that.
I know I will regret asking, but can't it be seen as theft?Dexter111 said:Sorry dude, but there's no "middle ground" and it's still not "theft"... you can't apply the concept of "theft" to intellectual goods, it may be cockmongery or dickery, douchebaggery or something like that and I always make sure to pay at least 5? even if I already own most games, but it's still not theft.
Legal? No, as you are modifying the games content (the .exe) withouth the producers permission.White-Death said:Also, would buying a legal copy of a game that comes with a shitty on-line service that spies on you & you MUST have & then cracking it for it to work without said service be justified?
The point here is that indie games a) generally don't cost anything at all and b) often times the money doesn't go to the official publisher money pile, but to the developer. Also they don't screw me over by making me install spyware on my computer in order to let me play the game, unlike said publishers. That's why it's infuriating to see how cheap people are. It's like pirating an ice cream sandwich, if that had been possible.Crono1973 said:Sorry No, Indie devs are not special and copyright infringement doesn't become theft when it involves an Indie developer.
In fact, I place a lower value on Indie games because most are ugly, simplistic and repetitive. I don't pirate them though, I watch them on YouTube and decide to skip them. I guess this show was required though, given the anti-piracy stance of the escapist.
Yeah, same here.FelixG said:I liked the original intro myself...
Die in a fire. I don't care WHO puts out the whatever, they need money to make the games/movies/books/whatever you want, and you're a pedophile burglar if you don't give it to them simply because they're "big". If they're DRMing the Hell out of it or not making it available conveniently, then we get into a gray area, but if they're putting out a DRM-free, non-region locked, easily available product, you better (wo-)man up and pay the company.FelixG said:I do agree with this though, fuck the big companies, but the indis shouldnt have to deal with that, I may never play it but I am gona go buy that serious sam game just because it had an awesome commercial and I respect the dev.
I swear he said female genitalia too. This so applies not just to indie games. For example what about that new rayman game which doesn't have that strict DRM that most ubisoft games have?Crono1973 said:Sorry No, Indie devs are not special and copyright infringement doesn't become theft when it involves an Indie developer.
In fact, I place a lower value on Indie games because most are ugly, simplistic and repetitive. I don't pirate them though, I watch them on YouTube and decide to skip them. I guess this show was required though, given the anti-piracy stance of the escapist.
BTW, when I hear people talk about castrating and torturing people (I guess only males are pirates), I assume they are not to be taken seriously.
Guilt trips don't work with text, you need TONE to successfully apply a guilt trip.Brian Hendershot said:I think people are missing the point of this video. You should pay something to humble indie devs at the very least because they respect you. They take out all the DRM, give the proceeds to charity and in the process are losing money. At the very least you are giving money to charity and getting some sweet games in the process.
And let's get off the topic of if it is theft or piracy. That's missing the point. Whatever you are doing, in the case of the humble indie devs, is just wrong.
Plus...it's only like a penny..come on...
No, Jim was saying still an indie game is bad....stealing a company game is fine. Piracy fucks every game maker regardless of what the charge is or who makes it. So your analogy fails, Jim is talking about taking a game with out paying and some how because they are independent they deserve less piracy than a normal company. Im thinking its more to do with poor and the rich. A big company has loads of cash so pirate them, an independent has less money so pay them for the game. When will people learn that pirates want things for free regardless what it costs or who makes the game.Crono1973 said:If I steal your bike, then you lose a bike. That's theft.
If you copy one of your games, you lose nothing. See the difference?
Erm that bike wasnt for sale so its theft. A game is for sale, legally. So what is that? Also a difference between a friend letting another friend copy a game and the internet to download for free. Big different.Crono1973 said:If I steal your bike, then you lose a bike. That's theft.
If you copy one of your games, you lose nothing. See the difference?