Jimquisition: When Piracy Becomes Theft
- Thread starter Jimothy Sterling
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1. Hey, don't look at me- I bought World of Goo. (And it was worth every penny. Seriously. Pick it up if you haven't yet. The soundtrack alone is worth what they're asking.)
2. Presumably Jim was born in the UK, so he can't be legally elected president. If we're talking more of an "armed-insurrection-dictator-for-life" kind of thing, well, let me know.
3. Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the second episode talking about piracy is the episode where the jimquisition stoppedstealing borrowing video from Fallout...?
2. Presumably Jim was born in the UK, so he can't be legally elected president. If we're talking more of an "armed-insurrection-dictator-for-life" kind of thing, well, let me know.
3. Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the second episode talking about piracy is the episode where the jimquisition stopped
Perhaps you are right. Maybe I should try the Elcor approach.Crono1973 said:
Angry Tone. I think people are missing the point of this video. Passionately, you should pay something to humble indie devs at the very least because they respect you. They take out all the DRM, give the proceeds to charity and in the process are losing money. At the very least you are giving money to charity and getting some sweet games in the process.
And let's get off the topic of if it is theft or piracy. That's missing the point. Whatever you are doing, in the case of the humble indie devs, is just wrong.
Exasperated, Plus...it's only like a penny..come on...
This video is not a serious "is piracy theft?" discussion. Those believing so may have slightly veered away from the intended point I was making and may have not quite gotten the sardonic part of it.
You can't pirate an ice cream sandwich, you can steal one and that's theft. Pirating software is not theft, it's copyright infringement.Naeras said:
For those who are confused about copyright infringement vs theft. Copyright Infringment means that only certain entities have the RIGHT to make COPIES of something, usually the publisher. Others who do it are infringing on the copyright as they are not legally allowed to make copies (outside of a legal backup). No matter how people try to twist it, it just isn't the same as walking into Wal Mart and stuffing a 360 game into your pants.
Piracy is unacceptable regardless. Saying a big company deserves it and an independent company doesn't is pathetic. For starters all the big companies started off as independents.Its like reading comments written by retards. Either you are against it or for it, the size of the company isnt an issue. Its like saying rich people should be burgled more than poor people and making a law that allows it. Those that thing, somehow, pirates give a shit about independent gaming and thats why they pirates games from big companies as some kind of protest. Pirates dont give a shit. They want the game for free and they will download it for free. If your mum made a game with her life savings.....people would still download it for free.
Once again, I thought I was 100% done with extreme profanity as humor, but Jim Sterling proves that there's still a little bit toothpaste left to squeeze out of the tube if you're clever enough with your wordings. Seriously, I laughed out loud twice during this video.
As for the actual content of it. I'm having a little bit of a problem with what he's implying with this whole string of piracy videos. No question that pirating games from struggling indie developers that trust their customers is more despicable than pirating a AAA-game from a big publisher. But that doesn't in any way justify pirating a game from a major publisher. I know that's not what he's saying, but I can easily see some people justifying pirating with "they have more money than they can spend, they're not hurt by piracy". Which is not OK! It's kind of important for me to draw the line, "less bad" does not equal "not bad".
As for the actual content of it. I'm having a little bit of a problem with what he's implying with this whole string of piracy videos. No question that pirating games from struggling indie developers that trust their customers is more despicable than pirating a AAA-game from a big publisher. But that doesn't in any way justify pirating a game from a major publisher. I know that's not what he's saying, but I can easily see some people justifying pirating with "they have more money than they can spend, they're not hurt by piracy". Which is not OK! It's kind of important for me to draw the line, "less bad" does not equal "not bad".
Probably doesn't help that they host official torrents for downloading the games in the bundle. (Used it once for the Linux version of Shank. Like Hell I was going to download 2 gigs the old fashioned way.) Also, they probably don't check the IP addresses of all the downloads, since the honor system dictates that all those separate downloads are just the same guy from different computers rather than pirates.Raggedstar said:
Whether the bike/game is for sale is not relevant at all. No difference if you obtain the copy from a friend or online. Your picture example is interesting, I have no answer.SonOfVoorhees said:
Your last sentence is bullshit, you shouldn't go around calling people pirates just because they have a different view than you.
One thing I'd like to point out: ever since Jim added the chainsword to the intro, there's been two little hiccups in the audio where that segment was inserted. In this new intro, the hiccups are still there, and they're no longer in a place where it even makes sense for them to be there.
Can whoever's responsible for the intro please fix this?
Can whoever's responsible for the intro please fix this?
An shame has what to do with anything? lol. Stop coming up with idiotic reasons. Theft is theft, whether the person is rich or poor - thats how the law sees it. Look at the shame amount is just guilt and morals....not law.Acrisius said:
I think this is the best way to explain how this works. Yes, it's been on the escapist before.
File sharing is kind of a dick move, so I learn to go without.
File sharing is kind of a dick move, so I learn to go without.
What about games that devs refuse to release games in other countries? AAI2 is a upcoming example. People are making a english patch but its not going to be released till a certain time if Capcom still says no. Am I such a bad person for pirating a game that Capcom has no intention of releasing even after I told them I'd buy the game?
In my opinion, if a company refuses to or can't release a game in my country then its ok to pirate. Or if you cannot buy it in any store and if you do buy it, the dev sees none of the money unless its rereleased(AKA: Earthbound).
In my opinion, if a company refuses to or can't release a game in my country then its ok to pirate. Or if you cannot buy it in any store and if you do buy it, the dev sees none of the money unless its rereleased(AKA: Earthbound).