true, true, and *drools* --huh? what? oh yeah, true!otterbeans post=9.68314.624760 said:Yuna, cute and elegant
Rikku, cheerful and spunky
Lulu, gothic and boobs
true, true, and *drools* --huh? what? oh yeah, true!otterbeans post=9.68314.624760 said:Yuna, cute and elegant
Rikku, cheerful and spunky
Lulu, gothic and boobs
Yes.SteinFaust post=9.68314.624798 said:is just it me, or does everyone else hear 'girly-man' and immediately only able to hear arnold schwarzenegger in his arnold voice saying "agh you're such a girly-man" XD
By whose standards? What you think of as being appropriate "guy" appearance might be utterly ridiculous or alien to someone from another culture.Hatman Jam said:Is it really too much to ask for the guy to look like a guy?
J-POP?! J-POP IS YOUR EXAMPLE?!tobyornottoby post=9.68314.624393 said:Google some J-pop bands for fun. There's a lot of guys there that look just like girls too.
The visible biological differences between men and women -- assuming everyone keeps their clothes on, of course -- boil down to facial hair and breasts. Oh, and Adam's apples, too.Joeshie said:By biological standards. I know this might be a tad hard for you to understand, but men and women are biologically different and thus have different natural appearances.
Thats not entirely true, which you also know.Susan Arendt post=9.68314.624931 said:The visible biological differences between men and women -- assuming everyone keeps their clothes on, of course -- boil down to facial hair and breasts. Oh, and Adam's apples, too.Joeshie said:By biological standards. I know this might be a tad hard for you to understand, but men and women are biologically different and thus have different natural appearances.
You're right, I was indulging in a bit of exaggeration to make a point. Yes, as a rule, men have more muscle mass than women, have broader shoulders, and unibrows. Ok, maybe not unibrows as a rule, just unibrow tendencies.s0denone said:Thats not entirely true, which you also know.
etc, etc.
There's a point I'd missed completely, and now that you say it, that could very well be the caseSusan Arendt post=9.68314.625004 said:You're right, I was indulging in a bit of exaggeration to make a point. Yes, as a rule, men have more muscle mass than women, have broader shoulders, and unibrows. Ok, maybe not unibrows as a rule, just unibrow tendencies.s0denone said:Thats not entirely true, which you also know.
etc, etc.
That is, adult men do. Take a teenage boy, on the other hand, and you tend to get a skinny, hairless person with a squeaky voice. (Again an exaggeration, but I think you see where I'm going with this.)
Perhaps the issue at hand is that JRPG heroes tend to be boys, not men? It's certainly true that JRPG characters, as a rule, tend towards youth.
That, my friend, is called a "trap"darkmetalfox post=9.68314.625013 said:It doesn't really bother me much. Only thing is that every once in awhile,I find a stupid person saying"That chick is hot!!" and I would then say "Dude,that's a guy" And normally that would follow with said person screaming in embarrassment and myself laughing malevolently.
I wasn't talking about unibrows, which Susan Arendt misunderstood, I was talking about the actual browbone.unabomberman post=9.68314.625023 said:Oh, shI...I have actually met LOTS of girls that are UNIbrow. My mom, for example is a UNIbrow. That's not that uncommon in the ladies. They're just much more fanatical about plucking the damn middle thing out.
But I never even set the trap to begin with. it just happens. and it's victims tend to be people who: A.have never seen anime or B.too dense to figure it out before hand.otterbeans post=9.68314.625026 said:That, my friend, is called a "trap"darkmetalfox post=9.68314.625013 said:It doesn't really bother me much. Only thing is that every once in awhile,I find a stupid person saying"That chick is hot!!" and I would then say "Dude,that's a guy" And normally that would follow with said person screaming in embarrassment and myself laughing malevolently.
No no no. The boy is a trap. It's the actual term for boys in anime and games that look like girls, and/or are set up as girls only until they are revealed as guys later on.darkmetalfox post=9.68314.625035 said:But I never even set the trap to begin with. it just happens. and it's victims tend to be people who: A.have never seen anime or B.too dense to figure it out before hand.otterbeans post=9.68314.625026 said:That, my friend, is called a "trap"darkmetalfox post=9.68314.625013 said:It doesn't really bother me much. Only thing is that every once in awhile,I find a stupid person saying"That chick is hot!!" and I would then say "Dude,that's a guy" And normally that would follow with said person screaming in embarrassment and myself laughing malevolently.
Yeah, I think that's probably one of the biggest reasons for the effeminate males that take place in JRPGs. JRPGs do occasionally have a very masculine male, they just tend to get relegated to the sidelines while the main character tends to be unusually young. The effeminate men tend to show up as the villians.Susan Arendt post=9.68314.625004 said:Perhaps the issue at hand is that JRPG heroes tend to be boys, not men? It's certainly true that JRPG characters, as a rule, tend towards youth.
That's certainly part of it as well. Youth is definitely fetishized in Japan for a number of reasons.Susan Arendt post=9.68314.625004 said:Perhaps the issue at hand is that JRPG heroes tend to be boys, not men? It's certainly true that JRPG characters, as a rule, tend towards youth.