Judge Pulls the Plug on LimeWire

[Arachon]

Am I the only one that is worried that the US justice system now has equated file sharing with piracy?

 

[Le_Lisra]

They were raided a while back. But there are dozens of other torrent hosting sites that keep popping up when one is taken down. Totally a losing battle.

But they are still there, that's the point.


I wonder how limewire made money from all this? Selling the pro version, which anyone could get from using the free version, does not seem very criminal to me, but what do I know.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

The RIAA are just the new Mafia, aren't they? YOU OWE US MILLIONS FOR OUR LOST REVENUE!

Shuddup. You don't even pay the artists enough, you're lower than injury lawyers on the foodchain.

 

[Hgame]

And no, piracy is not stealing

Yes it is: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/steal
See, it's very simple. Stealing means to take something wrongfully and/or without permission. Hey, guess what, you didn't have permission to download that copy of Super Awesome Fun Game from The Pirate Bay from the owners of that game, therefore you stole it. When are you thieves going to stop with that lame "it's not stealing" line? Anyone who can crack open a dictionary and/or use Google can see how damn wrong you are, so knock it off already.

Copying is not piracy, as this image shows:

Spoiler

 

[subfield]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/steal
See, it's very simple. Stealing means to take something wrongfully and/or without permission. Hey, guess what, you didn't have permission to download that copy of Super Awesome Fun Game from The Pirate Bay from the owners of that game, therefore you stole it.

Check this out:
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/piracy-for-dummies/1126706

By the way, you are confusing the definition (or interpretation) of a idea (stealing c.f. MW dictionary) with the idea itself. They are not the same.

Suppose by some miracle Merriam Webster has a correct (by whatever metric(s) you wish) interpretation of the idea of stealing into our world. It should be clear that any one of us here can build an alternate universe where the interpretation of "stealing" is different in some small way. That is: the idea is the same, just not how it is interpreted (or defined). The comic linked illustrates this quite nicely. I'll leave you to deduce the consequences, since you seem to like logic.

It should go without saying that everything I just wrote is only to first order.

 

[ottenni]

Awwwwww. So now i cant tell people to use Limewire just so they can get a Trojan? This is a sad sad day.

Soon people might have to start using a reliable program to download all their pirated music and porn perfectly legal documents of minimal worth.

 

[Sol_HSA]

500 million $ per month? The moment that was stated, RIAA lost any credibility they had in my eyes(granted they didn't have a lot to begin with after all the negative comments I've seen about them).

Well, now that it's taken down, you'll be proven wrong as record sales will immediately skyrocket! Isn't that basically what they're saying?

 

[DaggerOfCompassion]

Darn.
I don't use Limewire myself, but this is still BS.
Pirates>RIAA Ninja's

 

[NLS]

Do people still use Limewire? Also, as far as I remember, Limewire uses the Gnutella P2P network, which is also used by many other P2P clients, so it's not the end of P2P itself.

 

[Arkfeller]

Good riddance. LimeWire was just a heap of viruses anyway.

+1, I'm glad to see it gone.

 

[captainwolfos]

Oh snap, no more free porn for people /sarcasm.

Eh, Limewire is a load of balls anyway; chock full of viruses, spam and porn under the guise of song names. As far as I know >_>
Torrentz is the way to go. Not that I use any such thing...

 

[Master10K]

I'm surprised people were still using Limewire. That got out of fashion years ago.

 

[BENZOOKA]

LineWire was terrible anyways.

 

[jonnosferatu]

It's wonderful that the RIAA remains so opposed to the concept of free advertising via people who would not be customers in the first place.

I recognize that the debate is considerably more complex than this, but the amounts of money they ask for are ridiculous next to the actual value of what they're losing.

 

[archaicmalevolence]

Limewires probably not as bad as other torrents etc as it's from other people who may of bought it or your getting viruses from and anyway i doubt limewire will shut down.

 

[Loonerinoes]

But LimeWire and Gorton still face civil trouble from the Recording Industry Association of America [http://www.riaa.com/], which told the judge that LimeWire costs record labels about $500 million per month - that's right, $500 million per month - in lost revenue."

I'd like to see the maths behind this.

I'd venture to guess it goes something like this...

-X number of people downloaded songs from Limewire.
-Automatically convert X into Y amount of cash based on quite possibly the highest retail price for said songs, just to make sure the effect is that much greater and ignoring all the people who might've...oh I dunno...lost their legally purchased copies or perhaps been sold a defective product to begin with. And let's not even get into the fact that most of them would never have bought it in the first place.
-Scream ZOMGZ PIRATEZ ARE STEALIN' OUR BUZINESS!!!oneone and get proclaimed as 'official' by every respectable media outlet because everyone knows that all pirates are scum, DUH!

Just once I'd like to see a news story about piracy that does not include the following:

-Thunderous judgements, statements made in BOLD or CAPS, the obligatory 'Justice is served!' morality lecture.

And which does include:

-An anonymous inquiry amongst pirates as to their habits regarding the products they pirate
-Making sure that the statistics are as regionally spread out as possible and as large in sample size as possible
-Questionare that determines their morals about what it is that they do
-Questionare that determines what it is that they actually do, in spite or because of these morals

But god forbid that any sort of inquiry like this would ever be made. God forbid people would actually start to understand piracy, its actual effects and the people that peruse it and in turn learn how best to combat or even use it to their advantage. Nah, let's just quote bigass one zillion money numbers that companies like the RIAA, who are hardly ever objective about this to begin with, like it was all facts and support their suppositions with "If only 1% of those people would pay there would be so much more moolah for all! OMG they're douchebags!"

Because that's worked out SO well for the past 10 years. *sigh*

 

[iLikeHippos]

Why do we-- Wait, I'm Swedish... Let me re-phrase. (America's got nothing to do with me here)

Why do you people send the greedy monsters to hunt down the pirates? They are just going to chew them up and everything near the vecinity in their blindness.

Dissemble the RIAA and get some REAL Justice seekers (Cheesy, but you get the point) to do the job. CLEARLY the RIAA is not fit one fucking bit for this job, and they know it.

They just can't stop.