Judge Pulls the Plug on LimeWire
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$500 million a month? I wonder how the RIAA is going to prove that. Also, amazing how the RIAA thinks shutting these folk down is going to stop anything. When they finally shut Napster down, it's not like things got better for them.
I am not saying Pirating music is a good thing, I believe in supporting the artist especially the smaller ones that don't have multi-million album sales. Piracy has been around as long as media.
The music industry needs to cut some of their profits and provide CD's for less money, which might encourage sales. I don't know about the MP3 model though. Hard in my eyes to go lower than .99 a song.
I am not saying Pirating music is a good thing, I believe in supporting the artist especially the smaller ones that don't have multi-million album sales. Piracy has been around as long as media.
The music industry needs to cut some of their profits and provide CD's for less money, which might encourage sales. I don't know about the MP3 model though. Hard in my eyes to go lower than .99 a song.
So, say someone sneaks a camera into the louvre, and takes a snapshot of the mona lisa. Which he then prints out, and nails to his wall.mjc0961 said:
- You advocate, suing that man for the bazillions the picture's worth, because he totally stole it?
- Or, as the RIAA does it, sue him for the equivalent of 365 family louvre tickets a year, because he can see it every day, and hadn't he copied it, he totally would have gone to the museum with his family every day?
Once and for all. Stealing removes something, piracy copies stuff with no business purpose. But those seven year olds, that lend out their books to friends, should totally be sued for everything they'll ever have, those filthy stealing pirate bastards. Yea. Right.
Which all in all misses the point, that as long as the 'creative' industry (not to be confused with the artists) tries to screw me, and my soon to be family, over on a daily basis, I wouldn't even care, if it was indeed stealing.
Where am I going to download all my viruses now?
OT: Limewire wasn't that great anyways, so not really a big deal.
OT: Limewire wasn't that great anyways, so not really a big deal.
See now I'm not convinced that's true. I can understand why a lot of people don't want to pay the going rate for music. I personally pay for Spotify in the UK every month, but only because of the breadth of the catalogue.Timbydude said:
So much music and so many films now are short-term catchy, self-indulgent, forgettable dross. To a lot of people who consider themselves music lovers, these songs are alright but not worth the money to buy a single, and definitely not an album with seven filler tracks on it.
Being a musician doesn't entitle you to millions of dollars for your work, you don't do anything nearly as valuable as say, a doctor or a cancer researcher for example, so what gives you the right to expect megabucks when you phone it in? (Being a producer or employee of a record company -certainly- doesn't entitle you to that much).
Much like the housing markets, I think it's probably time that the recording industry accepted that it's enjoyed inflated profits through over-charging for a long time and that they're going to need to rethink their value proposition to "beat" piracy.
Logically, I agree. But there are two problems with that. The first being it's hard to compete with free, and the second being that the aggressive policies of the RIAA mandates higher pricing.SlainPwner666 said:
Saying "stealing" doesn't make it so.Timbydude said:
Is it really fair for the music industry to have to cave? Maybe not. These are the guys who have used every unfair trick in the book to "steal" catalogues of music, the rights to recordings, and every cent they can. Is it fair that artists can get paid pennies on the dollar for their intellectual properties? Is it fair that the end user has been overcharged since before Napster was an issue? Is it fair that the record industry keeps dodging price fixing rulings?
Does any of that justify piracy? No. But it's a little funny to see the concept of "fairness" being thrown around.
The other problem here is that they need to contemporise, "fair" or otherwise.
Wrong.Zechnophobe said:
Though their numbers are astronomical, it hardly outstrips global spending.
This isn't so bad, I mean sure they are cracking down on these sites, but if they were gone people wouldn't download as much. I mean who is going to spend hours looking for veiled coded messages to find a torrent for a cd or movie. Pirate bay ... Ironman 2... dl... vs google... grown up Nickleboy duece? adult metal that is in frying pans lad twice?... oh screw it Ill just rent the damn thing.
Sales don't raise by even a percent.
Industry assumes must be other pirate sites faults.
They'll still be wrong.
It's mostly tantrums, they don't understand the difference between potential sales and actual ones. Fighting piracy does anything but make them money.
Industry assumes must be other pirate sites faults.
They'll still be wrong.
There is very little correlation between difficulty in piracy and increase in sales.XT inc said:
It's mostly tantrums, they don't understand the difference between potential sales and actual ones. Fighting piracy does anything but make them money.
Or just pack CD cases full of liner notes, and I don't mean that bullshit "five pictures and maybe some lyrics". I'm talking about lyrics for every song, maybe notes so people can play them, essays or stories about the band or by it's members... worthwhile stuff. Maybe even really thin posters, if they fold 'em right.SlainPwner666 said:
