Justice League Official Trailer.

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Eh, doesn't look to horrible.... but I'd doubt I'd see it or buy it. DC movies just don't do it for me.

It seems like they're trying to do a little bit more comedy and the like which might succeed now that Boring McBoringpants Superman be gone. Though I didn't hear "BooYah" once in that trailer. 0/10 on RT.
 

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Good parts:

- Aquaman riding on the hood of the Batmobile shouting "Yeah!"
- Flash nerdgasming over the Batarang.
- Action looks good. Big war scene on Themyscira, which is what I expected.
- Batman piloting some kind of train-sized spider-tank.

Lastly:

Flash: What are your superpowers again?
Batman: I'm rich.
Bad parts:

- Feels a lot like Suicide Squad. This could be a step in the right direction, and it might be...Suicide Squad.
- Cyborg's face really stands out against the CGI; they should've gone for partially practical effects, like a Terminator-look. [https://reelclub.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/terminator7.jpg] He actually appears to don some sort of flight mask in the trailer; I think that was specifically to cover up this problem.
- Cyborg's body is generally way too light and skinny. It's the most skeletal version of Cyborg I've ever seen. It actually doesn't make much sense; a more bulky [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Cyborg_%28The_New_52%29.jpg] look like in the comics would be easier for a human actor to film and require less expensive CGI. Right now, they've just slapped Ray Fisher's head onto a completely computer-generated torso. It's more expensive, and it looks terrible.

A lot still rests on the Wonder Woman film. If that turns out to be a shitburger...I mean, I've been way more tolerant of the DCEU than most. I genuinely liked Man of Steel, and my opinion of BvS went from "I'm conflicted" to "this is almost a great film" once I saw the stupidly-long director's cut. But Suicide Squad was a shitburger pretending to be a cash cow, and I don't think there's anything that could have redeemed it, short of tossing 80% of it into the bin and starting again.

tl;dr : cautious optimism.
 

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Remember when Suicide Squad had that one good trailer that convinced everyone the movie was worth watching despite all the previous DCEU movies being trash?

Remember how Suicide Squad was trash?

Yeah...

It's a decent enough trailer, but I still don't care about the movie or have any intention to see it. You've burned me too many times DC, you have zero good will left.
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
Haha, no. ASM2 might have sucked, BUT Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone are good actors and have great chemistry together.
Yes to the first, no to the second.

Or at least in ASM1. The romance between them is cringeworthy. Whatever their status in real life, the romance between them is too poorly written for me to get invested.

Dirty Hipsters said:
Remember when Suicide Squad had that one good trailer that convinced everyone the movie was worth watching despite all the previous DCEU movies being trash?

Remember how Suicide Squad was trash?

Yeah...
Well, no, not really. I remember seeing the trailer, thinking it would be good, and it turned out okay. Better than BvS, but not as good as MoS (which is also "okay" at the end of the day).

I mean, 2016 gave us Deadpool (bleh), so anything looks better when compared to it.
 

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Why is there almost never any sunlight in the DC movies?

I've been trying to figure out why I find them so visually unappealing and I think that's at least part of it. They always seem to take place at night or on an overcast day. Combine that with the constant blue filter and you get a murky grey mess.

I mean, let's go through that trailer scene-by-scene

1 - Bruce Wayne and a horse. Overcast. Murky and blue-ish grey.
2 - Papa Cyborg at home. Nighttime.
3 - Bruce and Diana talking. Looks like nighttime. Or at least indoors with low light. Murky either way.
4 - Aquaman does aqua things. Overcast and grey.
5 - Three shots of Cyborg. All at night.
6 - Cyborg stops rolling humvee. I thought this one was at night too but it's actually just super overcast and grey.
7 - Flash's home. Indoors, nice and dingy and grey.
8 - Brief shot of Flash flashing. Overcast and grey.
9 - Batman fighting mooks. Overcast and grey.
10 - Heroes strike poses. Actual warm lighting, like from a fire.
11 - Aquaman fights mooks. Overcast and grey.
12 - Wonder Woman does leg sweep. ACTUAL FUCKING SUNLIGHT HOLY SHIT!
13 - Flying cyborg. Nighttime.
14 - Flash flashing. Indoors. Dingy and grey.
15 - Flash and Bruce in car. Possible sunlight, confirmation pending.
16 - Batformer. Underground for maximum grey murkiness.
17 - Bunch of rapidfire scenes. Mostly nighttime or overcast. One with some sunlight, couple ambiguous.

Like, Christ, why are they so determined to make everything grey-blue and murky?

It's just depressing to look at.
 
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Huh.

Alright this looks like it has SOME promise. SOME.

Maybe it's just because I really really like the flash (he's the only DC character I really enjoy), and because Aquaman looks like a ton of fun. But I do see this having some potential.

...That said if Zack Snyder is directing this, I don't exactly have high hopes that it'll turn out alright.

If the reviews aren't a brutal smack-down, I might see it just for the Flash and Aquaman.
 

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Also why no Superman?
Because Superman "died" in BvS, and the trailer can't give away the fact that he's totally alive in a healing coma or whatever other stupid bullshit they want to crib from The Death of Superman. Maybe he'll come back with a mullet, a black costume, and shooting guns. That version would fit Zack Snyder's vision of the characters really well.

 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Bitter Hobbit said:
Also why no Superman?
Because Superman "died" in BvS, and the trailer can't give away the fact that he's totally alive in a healing coma or whatever other stupid bullshit they want to crib from The Death of Superman. Maybe he'll come back with a mullet, a black costume, and shooting guns. That version would fit Zack Snyder's vision of the characters really well.

Sometimes I want to see that comic line of Superman in the Black Suit just to see how stupidly awesome it is.

And most likely he's gonna have the black suit and mullet, but no guns.
 

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Given how low my expectations are, the trailer wasn't bad -- Not that trailer enjoyability and movie enjoyability seem to have much relationship anymore, if they ever did.

Still...

What's with Aquaman's "dudebro" 'tude? Just seems a rather odd...

Speaking of odd, I reallyreallyreally hope they improve the Cyborg look/effects in the final cut.

Still think Gadot is a terrible choice for WW, but, meh, whatever.
 

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If I see this in theaters, and currently that's a big "IF", it will be purely on the shoulders of Jason Momoa's Aquaman.

Past that, it looks like the movie would only be around 52 minutes if they kept the camera going in realtime the whole way through.

I am surprised at the bad guy reveal. I mean:
a potential Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle being in play before Ted Kord?
 

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Zhukov said:
Why is there almost never any sunlight in the DC movies?

I've been trying to figure out why I find them so visually unappealing and I think that's at least part of it. They always seem to take place at night or on an overcast day. Combine that with the constant blue filter and you get a murky grey mess.

I mean, let's go through that trailer scene-by-scene

1 - Bruce Wayne and a horse. Overcast. Murky and blue-ish grey.
2 - Papa Cyborg at home. Nighttime.
3 - Bruce and Diana talking. Looks like nighttime. Or at least indoors with low light. Murky either way.
4 - Aquaman does aqua things. Overcast and grey.
5 - Three shots of Cyborg. All at night.
6 - Cyborg stops rolling humvee. I thought this one was at night too but it's actually just super overcast and grey.
7 - Flash's home. Indoors, nice and dingy and grey.
8 - Brief shot of Flash flashing. Overcast and grey.
9 - Batman fighting mooks. Overcast and grey.
10 - Heroes strike poses. Actual warm lighting, like from a fire.
11 - Aquaman fights mooks. Overcast and grey.
12 - Wonder Woman does leg sweep. ACTUAL FUCKING SUNLIGHT HOLY SHIT!
13 - Flying cyborg. Nighttime.
14 - Flash flashing. Indoors. Dingy and grey.
15 - Flash and Bruce in car. Possible sunlight, confirmation pending.
16 - Batformer. Underground for maximum grey murkiness.
17 - Bunch of rapidfire scenes. Mostly nighttime or overcast. One with some sunlight, couple ambiguous.

Like, Christ, why are they so determined to make everything grey-blue and murky?

It's just depressing to look at.
Best guess, it hides the ridiculous amount of CGI they use. Have half the scenes in BvS during the day and it would look like a PS2 cutscene.
 

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And already with goofs in your own trailer... seriously? I mean it looks exciting, I really want this to be good. I've always loved Batman more than any other superhero but:




That water hit him so hard it knocked his shirt off.
 

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SmugFrog said:
And already with goofs in your own trailer... seriously? I mean it looks exciting, I really want this to be good. I've always loved Batman more than any other superhero but:

That water hit him so hard it knocked his shirt off.
Pretty sure those are just 2 different scenes they are splicing together for a trailer for dramatic effect. You know, almost like it's a trailer, and they do this stuff all the time. Take phrases said in different portions of the film, and use them in a different scene to imply a different context.

Considering we see in the first trailer, him standing, facing the water, clearly shirtless, it's most likely a clip from that scene, and they were just splicing it with a scene of him being heroic, so that you get, in 2 cuts, and 5 seconds, (Hero, water guy).

OT: I think it looks ok, Cyborg still looks terrible CG wise, but I'm ok with bad looking effects, it doesn't cause me to enter a frothing nerd rage like some people on the internet. It looks like it might be good, but I'm being very conservative in that estimation. Could be utter shit, we'll see when it comes out.
 

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SmugFrog said:
And already with goofs in your own trailer... seriously? I mean it looks exciting, I really want this to be good. I've always loved Batman more than any other superhero but:




That water hit him so hard it knocked his shirt off.
have you seen the man? when you are that hot you dont need to take your own clothes off
 

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pookie101 said:
SmugFrog said:
And already with goofs in your own trailer... seriously? I mean it looks exciting, I really want this to be good. I've always loved Batman more than any other superhero but:


That water hit him so hard it knocked his shirt off.
have you seen the man? when you are that hot you dont need to take your own clothes off
Well it's not like this is new, I've been told, in the Batman v Superman trailer, that shot where they show Superman shooting his eye beams, and then cut to Batman hooking away before a beam blast hits him, isn't actually correct. (Not sure, didn't see the movie), that it was Superman shooting at Doomsday, and Batman hooking away from a blast from Doomsday. So yeah, this is hardly a new thing. They clip together what they think fits the run time, theme music, and tone they are aiming for.

Though your theory about the water stripping him down because he's just too sexy for his shirt, like the ocean is the spiritual manifestation of Right Said Fred....I'm on board with this theory. xD
 

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ok. i really want it to be good. but...

i mean, they will do a 2 hours movie where probably at least half of it will be caracter introduction, and how to bring them together. it will either be full of really boring and long parts, or the introducion will feel rushed. i really dont see why they couldnt wait and make an proper flash and aquaman stand alone movies before doing Justice league
 

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Happyninja42 said:
Pretty sure those are just 2 different scenes they are splicing together for a trailer for dramatic effect.
I hope so, because it is a good shot for a trailer and I understand how they can be cut together or show scenes that aren't even in the movie. At the same time it's just too similar and if it's shot this way in the movie and they crammed it in the trailer that's just inattention and bad editing. Little flaws like that are going to give way to other things that they don't care about to rush their movie out the door.

Happyninja42 said:
pookie101 said:
have you seen the man? when you are that hot you dont need to take your own clothes off
Though your theory about the water stripping him down because he's just too sexy for his shirt, like the ocean is the spiritual manifestation of Right Said Fred....I'm on board with this theory. xD
Lol I know right? Like they just want a reason to show him with his shirt off.
 

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SmugFrog said:
Happyninja42 said:
Pretty sure those are just 2 different scenes they are splicing together for a trailer for dramatic effect.
I hope so, because it is a good shot for a trailer and I understand how they can be cut together or show scenes that aren't even in the movie. At the same time it's just too similar and if it's shot this way in the movie and they crammed it in the trailer that's just inattention and bad editing. Little flaws like that are going to give way to other things that they don't care about to rush their movie out the door.
Well, don't forget, that close up of him shirtless, focused on his face, was already in the first trailer And it was preceded by him walking down the pier, shirtless drinking a bottle of booze. It then cut to a shot of him standing at the end of the pier, looking at the wave crashing over him, shirtless, and then cuts to that closeup of, you guessed it, him shirtless. It's far more likely that the clip is from that sequence, and they spliced it in because it's a really good closeup shot of his face, making him look sexy/dangerous/powerful. You know, stuff to try and draw in the crowd who wants to see a big muscly man shirtless.

SmugFrog said:
Happyninja42 said:
pookie101 said:
have you seen the man? when you are that hot you dont need to take your own clothes off
Though your theory about the water stripping him down because he's just too sexy for his shirt, like the ocean is the spiritual manifestation of Right Said Fred....I'm on board with this theory. xD
Lol I know right? Like they just want a reason to show him with his shirt off.
Well yeah, for one, trying to swim with clothes on sucks. I've done it, and I'd much rather be shirtless, and pantless honestly. And let's face it, the dude is hot. I'm straight, and even I can see why people get horny for the guy. Sex appeal is a real thing, to deny it is just silly. And it doesn't hurt to advertise a little skin for your product. I'm certain there are people who are going simply because they want to see half naked Jason Momoa, just like plenty of people go to movies to see half naked *insert female actress of your choice*. So yeah, showing him all wet and slippery and nekked is a smart move.

Also, the shot does look cool. I'm not in the camp of "Aquaman is stupid because they didn't make him cool in SuperFriends, and that's the only way we can seem to understand him, so he is forever lame in our heads" fans. Dude that rules 75% of the planet, has super strength, super durability, can summon tidal waves and aquatic animals to his side, has a giant trident he stabs people with, he's got more going for him than Batman in my book. Who, as is stated in this trailer, has the super power of "being rich." Plus, since they are going for this Poseidon look, I think he looks fucking badass.

I dunno, maybe it's because I'm an old school White Wolf fan, and found the Rokea (shark shapeshifter) game line really damn interesting, that I find him more compelling. Given the terrifying shit that really does exist in the ocean, not to mention the crazy nightmare fuel stuff they came up with for that game line, I don't see it as being a safe/nice place to live, and he's the fucking king of it. You just don't fuck with that kind of a person.
 

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If I see this in theaters, and currently that's a big "IF", it will be purely on the shoulders of Jason Momoa's Aquaman.

Past that, it looks like the movie would only be around 52 minutes if they kept the camera going in realtime the whole way through.

I am surprised at the bad guy reveal. I mean:
a potential Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle being in play before Ted Kord?
That's a parademon.