Kid Becomes "Little Zangief" in Response to Bullying

[Chronologist]

Having actually been a 4th and 5th grader in Australia and picked on, yeah, I understand where this kid's coming from, and I did the exact same thing back then. Sometimes, all you need is one act of overwhelming aggression, and no one will ever pick on you again. You don't know what it's like until you've lived it. Everyone else who has, you know where I'm coming from.

I mean, I just slammed someone into a wall bodily. What this kid did was way more impressive. He should be bully free for, like, 3 generations because of this.

 

[Gindil]

Bullying < killing

End of story.

True enough. But there is one little problem with the moral high ground you are claiming here:

NO ONE DIED!

You are basing your entire argument on something that didn't actually happen. Guess what that makes you?

Finally, let me amend your little relationship diagram there:

Defending yourself < Bullying < Killing

Hmm... now which one did Casey ACTUALLY do?

I think you want to switch those signs since he seems to want to play a moral high card that has been debunked for two pages now...

 

[KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life]

Hate speech? This is bullshit! What, did the kid yell racial slurs?

 

[agnosticOCD]

So much win... I think suspension is fine, but 21 days a bit too long. He still did risk breaking the bully's neck and possibly killing him, but then, I think he's definitely awesome for making sure that nobody can shit on him anymore and get it noticed.

THE AUTHORITEH!

He was suspended for 4 days, the bully was the one suspended for 21.

Oh, my bad. Thanks.

 

[All Hail Lelouch]

Why Has the Video been taken off of Youtube? There was no Hate speech in there!

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

I really understand all the people pledging their support to this kid, but aren't we forgetting that bullys often are victims themselves. I'm not saying that to excuse their behaviour, but seriously, lack of empathy is not cured by getting your ass kicked.

*on a completely unrelated note

(Hidden, politically incorrect cheering for that awesome kid)

No, lack of empathy is not removed by having your arse kicked. That however, is not Casey's problem; Casey's problem was a snot nosed little brat who saw fit to poke to sleeping dragon who then has the audacity be shocked when he unleashes the fire. Body dropping him solved Casey's problem, and that's the only problem he sought to solve.


The little snot needs therapy, but his parents can pay for that and more as far as I am concerned.

If someone punches you in the stomach, you sure as fuck can't near kill them by slamming them into the ground.

The little snot was nowhere near getting killed. He landed on his side: an arm or shoulder injury was more likely, not counting getting his ankle slammed on the bench. Now whether that was by design or luck I don't know, but I don't particularly care either. He met his attack head on and ended the threat to his person.

At some point, people who harass, bully and intimidate others will come across someone who will not tolerate it full stop, or push someone until they can take no more. This day they shall rue. People are unpredictable when pushed into a corner or taken to the limits of their patience.

It is better to be judged by twelve, than it is to be carried by six.

Oh really? I guess my father, the medic in the Australian Army, knows less than you. Clearly if he thinks the boy was close to having vital bones and nerves in parts of his body destroyed, it is all for naught! For you know all.

I doubt very much I'm smarter than your father.

However in the video, I see a kid landing on his side. Is he in danger of injuring possibly his shoulder, arm, ribs, hip, knee and a dozen or more points and organs? Well yes he is, I just don't see the much touted evidence that he's nearly dropped the bully on his head: I've been dropped on my side like that before, although not in such a way my ankle was injured: and it isn't that bad.

Besides, we arguing what could have been. The brat didn't die, only injured. Casey's problem is solved: and that's all that matters.

 

[Bat Vader]

Hmm... which one of us is currently on probation here? Yeah, I thought so.

If you have nothing to add to the conversation, don't waste my time or the time of others with pointless posts.

Dude, give it up. You don't have the moral high ground here, and you are in no position to tell me what to do. You've reduced yourself to simply telling me to shut up, which you have no authority to do, and tried to take refuge in forum rules which you don't even bother to follow yourself. Pretty hypocritical in my opinion, but I'm sure you feel justified.

I believe I've added quite a lot the conversation, actually. Debunking the "blame the victim" claims of those like yourself promotes the greater social good.

Children who have been systematically abused, whether physically or emotionally, need to have their accomplishments and victories recognized. Casey did a good thing - he successfully stood up for himself after being bullied for weeks and then finally physically assaulted.

People like you who immediately start trying to find fault, trying to find a way to make standing up for yourself the wrong choice, especially with your questionable legal interpretations, help perpetuate the cycle of abuse. You are just another form of bully in my opinion, and I have no problems letting you know it.

Well, at least until I get bored of the whole thing. I've got games to play after all.

We don't need to have anymore arguing in this thread. Eico's opinion is that Casey went too far. Your opinion is that Casey was justified with how he handled the bully. The best thing to do would be to agree to disagree. If you two keep continuing on like this you may both end up getting into trouble with the moderators.

On Topic: I would hope this video helps reduce bullying a bit. I know it most likely won't but hopefully it does.

 

[G-Force]

The fact the boy was bullied doesn't factor into the amount of force that should have been used. He was in no immediate danger of serious bodily harm. The law says all he could have done was punch back, walk away, or scream for help. He chose to almost kill someone. Bad move.

No immediate threat? You seriously think that multiple punches to the face and body is no immediate threat?

Ok let's look at this objectively, yes he should have tried to restrain him, he should have just punched back but do you think a CHILD is able to comprehend self defense law and even give it a single thought after being punched in the face? Casey was scared and his instincts took over. There's a good chance that after the second punch to the face he wasn't thinking "geez I should only retaliate with the same amount of force" and more akin to just getting the bully off of him.

Did you ever stop to consider that there was more than one bully involved? There were two other kids with the bully when this was filmed and just their presence alone probably heightened Casey's sense of danger. Even if the other two kids had no intention of joining in on the fight in Casey's eyes he saw two MORE people out to get him. He had every reason to, they were the bully's friends AND they were having fun at his misfortune.

 

[Queen Michael]

It's people like Casey that give me hope for our world.
Them, and really spicy chips.

 

[G-Force]

he should have just punched back but do you think a CHILD is able to comprehend self defense law

Ignorance and stupidity is no excuse for criminal acts. Not knowing (or caring) what you are doing is illegal means nothing.

I love how out of all the points I made you just zeroed in on this one argument.

I just mention that as part of my argument that it's a bit too much to ask a child to rationally consider self-defense law while being attacked. The kid was scared and his instincts took over. For many people it takes a considerable amount of training for some adults to be able to keep their composure during times of crisis. Do you honestly expect someone like Casey who's never even been in a fight in his life to be able to calmly analyze the situation he's in and think of an effective method of restraining the bully while being punched in the face and body?

 

[etherlance]

Thats what we like to call critical damage!!!

Nicely done there squire!!

If only I had the balls to do that when I was bullied at school, my life would have been so much easier.

 

[G-Force]

I don't care how flawed he is. He did the wrong thing.

Alright then. How bout this question.

Do you think any child who's never been in a fight would be able to think in a rational manner while being punched at least five times in the face and body and do the right thing?