Kill Your Darlings

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Calling it now: Erin dies at the end of the next series.
 

Giest4life

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I have never seen anyone kill off main characters with the casual indifference of George R. R. Martin. Although not my favorite author, I enjoy his visceral writing style. It's not surprising when one considers the fact that the Martin, a medieval historian, takes great inspiration from the English War of the Roses. Life was cheap in the middle ages--and still is--and lords and legends were killed off just as quickly as they emerged.

Also, having read 4 of his books, I didn't really think that he could "shock" me anymore, boy was I wrong--those who have read the book know what I am talking about.

Jon Snow bites the dust
 

knight steel

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OMG you killed that poor bowl of innocent popcorn he was my fav character-That it I'm never reading critical miss ever again >_<
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
Waited a LONG time to avoid spoilers Grey


Thanks.
Ahh but the comic doesn't say what characters were killed off. So no spoilers.
 

Jandau

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Giest4life said:
I have never seen anyone kill off main characters with the casual indifference of George R. R. Martin. Although not my favorite author, I enjoy his visceral writing style. It's not surprising when one considers the fact that the Martin, a medieval historian, takes great inspiration from the English War of the Roses. Life was cheap in the middle ages--and still is--and lords and legends were killed off just as quickly as they emerged.

Also, having read 4 of his books, I didn't really think that he could "shock" me anymore, boy was I wrong--those who have read the book know what I am talking about.

Jon Snow bites the dust
No, he doesn't. At least not for more than 5 minutes.
 

nyysjan

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Nothing immature about stopping watching a show or reading a book if you don't like the plot.
I stop reading books for lot of reasons, i don't like characters, plot twists seem stupid, jokes are horrible, why would death of the characters i was interested in be of the table?
 

Saltyk

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nyysjan said:
Nothing immature about stopping watching a show or reading a book if you don't like the plot.
I stop reading books for lot of reasons, i don't like characters, plot twists seem stupid, jokes are horrible, why would death of the characters i was interested in be of the table?
My rule of thumb for any book is that if it doesn't catch my interest within three chapters, I stop reading it. TV shows also tend to get three episodes unless the first one is really bad. I'll give a movie 30 minutes.
 

Ukomba

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The constant killing off of main characters in the book series made it really hard to get invested into. The books are good, but I really don't see why people put them at the top of best of lists, George R.R. Martin is barely in the top 10 authors.

Also, just wait till they get to the end of 'A Dance with Dragons'.
 

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Giest4life said:
Also, having read 4 of his books, I didn't really think that he could "shock" me anymore, boy was I wrong--those who have read the book know what I am talking about.

Jon Snow bites the dust
I'd argue it's a bit vague, and, considering certain other things going on, I don't think we can say that's certainly the case until the next book.
 

Ukomba

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Arrogancy said:
Giest4life said:
Also, having read 4 of his books, I didn't really think that he could "shock" me anymore, boy was I wrong--those who have read the book know what I am talking about.

Jon Snow bites the dust
I'd argue it's a bit vague, and, considering certain other things going on, I don't think we can say that's certainly the case until the next book.
That's true, but it's set up to the point that it seems only magic can prevent it...

But there are after death options, undead and wolf possession. He can die and still be in the story ,like a certain female character.
 

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Who did they kill off that ruined Walking Dead for you? I'm really racking my brain trying to think who hasn't out lived their comic counter part and I'm not coming up with a whole lot. Admittedly it's been a while since I've read the comics.
Dale. He was pretty much the second most important character after Rick. Dealing with his death in the comics took almost two issues, and really messed with Rick and Andrea's head. In the show, he's pretty casually killed off on the farm with a "Sorry brother".
That decision was caused by the fact that the actor wanted out of the show so they killed him off early.
 

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Wait. People liked the King in the North? Why? He was pretty much a non-entity for me, he and his half-brother were pretty much the least interesting characters. Was it because he had a pretty wife and was trying to do things for less-dickish reasons?
 

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Giest4life said:
Actually, the last we see is Jon Snow being stabbed by his fellow Nights Watch members for the sake of the Nights Watch. There is no definitive proof he is dead yet until GRRM writes the next one. it may sound like wishful thinking, but with the way GRRM is in his writing, don't write the possibility out until more definitive stuff comes to be.
 

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Ukomba said:
Arrogancy said:
Giest4life said:
Also, having read 4 of his books, I didn't really think that he could "shock" me anymore, boy was I wrong--those who have read the book know what I am talking about.

Jon Snow bites the dust
I'd argue it's a bit vague, and, considering certain other things going on, I don't think we can say that's certainly the case until the next book.
That's true, but it's set up to the point that it seems only magic can prevent it...

But there are after death options, undead and wolf possession. He can die and still be in the story ,like a certain female character.
If there's one terrible habit Martin got into since... well, basically since the end of the first book, it's setting up scenarios where it appears certain that a character is dead, and then revealing they're still alive. In contrary to the suspense supposedly created by his willingness to kill off any of the characters, it actually appears more like he's just teasing people with the threat of death and gets on my nerves. Unless a character is killed off explicitly in full view "on screen", so to speak, I'm going to be sitting and waiting for Martin to try and do yet another of his umpteen "gotcha" revelations where he reveals, to absolutely no surprise anymore, that the character he implied was dead was not actually dead.

What I'm saying is that there is so much precedence of Martin doing exactly this kind of thing and the characters surviving that it seems highly unlikely that he'll have killed off Snow.
 

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Sidney Buit said:
Wait. People liked the King in the North? Why? He was pretty much a non-entity for me, he and his half-brother were pretty much the least interesting characters. Was it because he had a pretty wife and was trying to do things for less-dickish reasons?
People don't have to like a character to be surprised by their death. Man characters tend not to die that often. Not that it should surprise anyone at this point. George Martin LOVES to kill of characters. I expect, by the last book in the series (if he ever finishes it), none of the original cast of characters will be left alive and we'll be following characters introduced in books 3+.