Killzone 3 Leaks to Torrent Sites

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40 GBS?!?
What the everlovingcrap?
How on earth do you make a game that's 40 GB in size? Fallout 3 game out in 2009 and that was 6.7 GB and that game was fucking massive.

On sorry this is a piracy thread. Err down with piracy
The file size difference is because there are different files loaded for left and right eye. They're doing it that way to cut down on the processor requirements of the PS3 and it's not like Blu-rays don't have the capacity to support that approach.

More on topic, I remember when one of the key points of using blu-rays as the standard was that the file sizes would be so large that they would discourage piracy, and with laws being rewritten in the US and Canada to allow limiting bandwidth that may become a valid point again.

Bottom line though, good games get bought. No amount of piracy has ever ended a good game or solid studio, but piracy has crushed some smaller studios that released poor games.

The only way piracy will ever end if there come some legitimate incentives to not pirate, and for some reason the industry doesn't realize that dlc exclusive won't cut it. If anything exclusive dlcs encourage piracy, as that becomes the only way to get the bonus content.

*sigh
Pirates gonna pirate.
 

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I wonder what defines when one leak is worth reporting and when it's not. It's kinda common for console games to get leaked before the release. Also, Marvel vs Capcom 3 was leaked some time ago already.
 

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How are all these games getting leaked...

CONSPIRACY!
1) 4Chan
2) Jack Thompson meets Sam Fisher ninja.
3) Kotick unleashes plan to destroy competitors.
4) Killzone developers are attention whores and got jealous.
5) Some idiot developer wanted to impress his step-son so he decided to sneak a copy of the game he was
working on out so as to impress him and bring them closer.

All of these are strong possibilities. Except number five. Number five is totally weak cause, like, when you make a pinky-swear not to upload something on the internet, you totally cannot break that oath...
 

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Piracy is good, it leaks information, and information should not be limited.
 

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Kair said:
Piracy is good, it leaks information, and information should not be limited.
can't tell if your being sarcastic... but in this case it should be limited, software is the only thing America has that they can still produce that can't be out sourced to china/Mexico.
 

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I think somebody just accidentally all the PS3 games, what should we do?
 

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Vrach said:
Great news. No sarcasm. Hope Xbox gets hacked as well so developers stop their bullshit excuse of piracy for not developing PC games. Seeing L.A. Noire a few days ago made me just go "fuck you Rockstar" for another awesome title that's not coming to PC. Like not being able to play RDR wasn't bad enough.
"Their bullshit excuse of piracy for not developing PC games?" Last time I checked, Killzone 3 is a PS3 exclusive, because Guerrila is owned by Sony, of course they only make PS3 games.
 

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Piracy is good, it leaks information, and information should not be limited.
That said, can anyone confirm yet whether this game has ONLINE CAMPAIGN CO-OP? I keep getting just rumors and possible yes, possible no. I would like to know before it comes out, as that is the only thing that would make me want to buy this game. Otherwise, pass.

40 GB...um, I only have 11 GB left on my hardrive, and that's AFTER deleting a bunch of stuff so I could download Record of Agarest War from the PS Network.
 

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Congratulations dipshit hackers and torrenters who cracked the PS3, you have now given Sony plenty of right to sue your asses off and come after you because now you are officially stealing from them and making other companies lose money and potentially jobs. This will likely make people think twice before making games for the PS3 anymore.

Seriously, way to be greedy little dumbasses. I hope they sue you for all you're worth. \

Seeing shit like this on a daily basis it's no wonder people look down at the gaming community. Hell, I hate it myself right now.
 

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Korten12 said:
Vrach said:
Great news. No sarcasm. Hope Xbox gets hacked as well so developers stop their bullshit excuse of piracy for not developing PC games. Seeing L.A. Noire a few days ago made me just go "fuck you Rockstar" for another awesome title that's not coming to PC. Like not being able to play RDR wasn't bad enough.
"Their bullshit excuse of piracy for not developing PC games?" Last time I checked, Killzone 3 is a PS3 exclusive, because Guerrila is owned by Sony, of course they only make PS3 games.
Regardless, in the big picture, it's all good, the more pirating carries over to PS3 and Xbox, the less the developers (not Sony, or well, maybe even them) will stop spouting the crappy "PC games get pirated so fuck PC" argument.

And as I said on the Crysis 2 leak post, I don't see how it's any different from the game being pirated on day one, which it always is and is never really any news unless the developers tried to make some (useless) grandiose effort to stop the pirates.

People who pirate games are in 90% cases people willing to wait for the release date and an extra few days for the crack, so it's all the same as far as the developers are concerned. The only difference is that an early leak is basically a demo and if the game is shit, those multitudes of people who use piracy for testing it will know it and not waste their time with the game. But again, those people would most likely find the same thing out after the game and it's crack are launched anyway. And even if they wouldn't, I'm not gonna cry for someone losing money because they didn't manage to sell a product to a customer that wouldn't have enjoyed it.

So ya, same shit, different day :)
 

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blind_dead_mcjones said:
bloody hell...

why is it that there is always a small group of people that always have to ruin things for everybody else? cos it is really starting to try my patience
The problems isn't the pirates, it's the knee jerk reaction from companies and the kindergarten politics involved. It's not the pirates fault for taking advantage of something that is there, like it's not the cows fault for shitting in the water upstream from where you drink.

The problem is that now everyone has to pay for the actions of the few because the company says that all of us honest gamers must pay. Sony can keep on it's toes by doing more updates. Always online DRM is of course, a huge mistake.

Also, for fun, this game was available online before the Crysis 2 Beta. Good reporting skills.

Is someone going to be idiotic and say they should "stop making games for the PS3 just to show the pirates", like what happens whenever there is a story like this on a PC game (CRYSIS 2!).

darkszero said:
I wonder what defines when one leak is worth reporting and when it's not. It's kinda common for console games to get leaked before the release. Also, Marvel vs Capcom 3 was leaked some time ago already.
It was, a buddy of mine has it, I played it this weekend. Amazingly enough, I still have my Collectors Edition completely payed off and am still looking forward to playing it. Crazy, I know!

I don't think that it's "not worth reporting", as much as I think it's the fact that it was missed. Also, Capcom isn't making a huge deal out of it. Sony of course is, and so is Crytek. Additionally, the people that didn't know that these leaked games are out there, now know what to look for when they don't want to buy a game.

I have seen 360 games online for years now, almost since the systems inception. Yet, those games still jump off the shelves when they are good, and not when they are shit. That also goes for the Wii.

This is not a new phenomenon. When I was in the 8th grade, I cheated and copied discs for Microsoft Windows version 3.11. I am so evil. That was for my old 486 DX-2. Just as an illustration as to how long this has been going on. And yet, despite the easy ability to steal way back in the day, Microsoft is still in it's present state, super rich and powerful.

I think we will all survive piracy, just as the companies will. The world isn't going to implode, and companies will still reap untold profits from all of us honest gamers.
 

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Serves them right for being such dicks about the PS3 being hacked. Don't care at all. I feel bad for Crytek though.
 

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ROFL, what is going on here?!

Are the devs just fed up with making demos so they said f*ck it, leak an early build and were done...
 

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This years competations for customers is ruff. Timing wasnt the best possible though. Oh well, people seem to be an idiots so why not.
 

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Vrach said:
Korten12 said:
Vrach said:
Great news. No sarcasm. Hope Xbox gets hacked as well so developers stop their bullshit excuse of piracy for not developing PC games. Seeing L.A. Noire a few days ago made me just go "fuck you Rockstar" for another awesome title that's not coming to PC. Like not being able to play RDR wasn't bad enough.
"Their bullshit excuse of piracy for not developing PC games?" Last time I checked, Killzone 3 is a PS3 exclusive, because Guerrila is owned by Sony, of course they only make PS3 games.
Regardless, in the big picture, it's all good, the more pirating carries over to PS3 and Xbox, the less the developers (not Sony, or well, maybe even them) will stop spouting the crappy "PC games get pirated so fuck PC" argument.

And as I said on the Crysis 2 leak post, I don't see how it's any different from the game being pirated on day one, which it always is and is never really any news unless the developers tried to make some (useless) grandiose effort to stop the pirates.

People who pirate games are in 90% cases people willing to wait for the release date and an extra few days for the crack, so it's all the same as far as the developers are concerned. The only difference is that an early leak is basically a demo and if the game is shit, those multitudes of people who use piracy for testing it will know it and not waste their time with the game. But again, those people would most likely find the same thing out after the game and it's crack are launched anyway. And even if they wouldn't, I'm not gonna cry for someone losing money because they didn't manage to sell a product to a customer that wouldn't have enjoyed it.

So ya, same shit, different day :)
Thats still bad logic, it shouldn't be good for ANY game to be pirated. and Thats probably wrong about the 90% as most of them probably wouldn't buy the game either way.
 

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Korten12 said:
Thats still bad logic, it shouldn't be good for ANY game to be pirated. and Thats probably wrong about the 90% as most of them probably wouldn't buy the game either way.
You'd be surprised :)

And it's not actually bad for games to be pirated as most of those who do otherwise wouldn't have played them. Sure, you have a few fucks who just pirate games cause they can but for the most part it's done by people who don't have the funds to support a gaming hobby - kids (who don't have rich parents), students (of the same sort), the temporarily unemployed and people living/working in undeveloped/developing countries.

You have people who pirate games but still support the game industry as much as they can afford to. A lot of people as a matter of fact. I don't see any reason they should be restricted to playing fewer/no titles just because they weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth, considering the publisher/developer/etc. don't lose anything by that person enjoying it for free. Especially when doing so will effectively increase their love of the medium, leading to potential future customers for the very industry you're saying that needs support.

So yes, I do actually think it's good for any game to be able to be pirated. The benefits far outweigh the downsides, for everyone.