And honestly, on topic, I have no problems with any changes. I'd LIKE it if the Materia worked in a similar fashion (seriously, that was the best balance of customizable characters to character flavor I've ever seen in an FF game), but... I still have the PSX game, and two backwards compatible systems, so either way I'm good.
So he's threatening to go all George Lucas on FFVII if we force him to do a remake so that he can make it "better?" Why would you mess with such a great game? The only things I could see being remotely allowable would be adding extra mini-games to the Gold Saucer, or maybe extra side-content. Just about anything else would be an abomination.
They probably already have a remake completed, holding on to it so that when the next titles suck shit like the last 3 years of everything they have done has and the money starts to run out, they can save the company.
No. Nonononono. Dont remake FF7. As an outsider to the series that has been looking at it for a while, I say remake 6. The plot is much better, Aeris' stab has nothing on Cid and Celes and the villan is so much more interesting, ESPICIALLY if they run with the alternate interpritation he was given in Dissidia.
Leave it as is people, for most of you it's pure nostalgia that you cling to not the actual quality of the game. Face it, FF7 is an antiquity at this stage and adding current gen graphics will only exasperate that.
Seriously people, how old were most of you when you first played 7? The intervening 15 years since then will have developed your palette far more then you realise, and nostalgia will do squat for you when your playing a 15 year old game with a new coat of paint. It will look great, but feel like shit AND you it won't have the same emotional impact as the first run through.
But even if they overhauled the game, it still won't beat nostalgia. It can't possible live up to a delusion (quite frankly, that's what nostalgia amounts to in the game industry).
Now that's just directed at the fans. To anybody else, a re-skin job with some dubbing will alienate a large chunk of this generations gamers because to some, FF10s/12s/13s systems are more to their taste and the old clunky FF7 engine will just seem old and clunky. Why? Because games are not fine wines and do not get better with age.
A re-mastering would also be lost on many players because the "fans" of the original would have already spoiled the quintessential aspect of a final fantasy game, and that is the story. At this stage, who the fuck doesn't know...
...Aeries/Arith dies, Cloud is actually part of soldier, Jenova is actually an alien life form etc.etc.etc.
Chances are, even if you managed to avoid those spoilers for all these years, the plot would feel trite and a bit "been there done that". There is essentially no plot at that point, and the games narrative will just feel predictable and flat...
Let it remain a memory, for fans who loved it will still reminisce and even replay it and people who never played it won't miss it.
All they do is remakes these days. There was a time gamers such as myself looked forward to new Final Fantasy games. Now we wait an exceptional amount of years for a game that, while looking good, is only mediocre at best and does nothing but hurt the genre completely. And in between those releases, we are offered up new versions of old games that people aren't asking for left and right.
Leave it as is people, for most of you it's pure nostalgia that you cling to not the actual quality of the game. Face it, FF7 is an antiquity at this stage and adding current gen graphics will only exasperate that.
Seriously people, how old were most of you when you first played 7? The intervening 15 years since then will have developed your palette far more then you realise, and nostalgia will do squat for you when your playing a 15 year old game with a new coat of paint. It will look great, but feel like shit AND you it won't have the same emotional impact as the first run through.
But even if they overhauled the game, it still won't beat nostalgia. It can't possible live up to a delusion (quite frankly, that's what nostalgia amounts to in the game industry).
Now that's just directed at the fans. To anybody else, a re-skin job with some dubbing will alienate a large chunk of this generations gamers because to some, FF10s/12s/13s systems are more to their taste and the old clunky FF7 engine will just seem old and clunky. Why? Because games are not fine wines and do not get better with age.
A re-mastering would also be lost on many players because the "fans" of the original would have already spoiled the quintessential aspect of a final fantasy game, and that is the story. At this stage, who the fuck doesn't know...
...Aeries/Arith dies, Cloud isn't actually part of soldier, Jenova is actually an alien life form etc.etc.etc.
Chances are, even if you managed to avoid those spoilers for all these years, the plot would feel trite and a bit "been there done that". There is essentially no plot at that point, and the games narrative will just feel predictable and flat...
Let it remain a memory, for fans who loved it will still reminisce and even replay it and people who never played it won't miss it.
Really how is the second one a spoiler? I think you got a little mixed up so I fixed it for you. Also just to point out sometimes old games are just as good as new games. Now while I can't speak in the context of Final Fantasy games as I am fan(surprised much?)
I can speak in relation to other game series like Half Life and Prince of Persia and to a lesser degree Halo. I have never played PoP games until the 360 one and it was shit and then I got the older ones on Steam and I kept thinking how did they fuck this up? Half Life while I played it with 0 expectations ignoring the hype I found the whole series to be generally timeless and enjoyable. Not as good as the fanbase makes it out to be but still playable and relevant today. Halo is a bit different as it is more recent but I played the second first and then played the first second(confused? I am bit too). I just kept thinking how could they downgrade so many of the good working aspects of the game for the second one but that is life.
OT:I just wish they would say yay or nay and leave it at that. If they were to make a remake they could always do a bit of a Halo on it and have an option for old dialogue translations, non voice acting, old style combat. You know just include the old engine on the new game but then make an actual remake and not just a reskin unlike Halo.
Keep everything the same. Just better graphics and add some good voice acting (same stupid dialogue mind) and maybe some extra quests.
The battle system doesn't need to change or evolve to todays standards as the original fans want the original system and a remake of FFVII will cause a Skyrim-esque mob mentality causing everyone else to buy it regardless of whether they've ever played a FF game before. So there's no downside to pandering to fans wants.
Because if you tell people the game is going to be great enough times they'll believe it.
Also it is odd that it is in an Xbox magazine seeing as FFVII was a major playstation game.
Although I guess Xbox 360 does have some similarities with psone... please switch to disc 3...
Eh. You can buy FF7 on the PSNetwork. Making a remake would inspire more fan-rage and well, complete indifference from non-fans like myself.
The time to remaster and re-release FF7 was during the heyday of the PS2. Today it would just smack of desperation on SquareEnix's part. It would sell, but it wouldn't generate a lot of hype.
As far as the established canon goes, the original FFVII is obsolete. Yuffie and Vincent's optionality potentially creates gaping plot holes, as does their absence during the final battle against Sephiroth. (Because like it or not, that piece of crap Dirge of Cerberus exists and is canon...) And then there are parts that would simply be... questionable at best. I'm looking at you, crossdressing scene. That's not something I'm looking forward to in HD. And then the fat gangster guy wanting to do God knows what to Yuffie... yeah.
So all in all, I can certainly see WHY they would want to change it around. A straight HD upgrade would be boring at best; the least they could do is put it up to par with say, Crisis Core.
... and Final Fantasy VI is still left in the dust. All the pre-3D era titles except that one were remade for the handhelds with bonus content as well as the 3D ones being sold on PSN. Six is stuck with a mediocre GBA port that removed the gold that was the dialogue.
Why must everyone cream their pants when talk of a VII remake surfaces? VII wasn't even that good. Hell, if it weren't for Red XIII that game would be my least favorite Final Fantasy game and my least favorite RPG game that I've played.
You want to remake a good game Square Enix? Remake VI. That is where the Final Fantasy series was at its best. Amazing characters, fantastic story, and the best damn villain the series has ever seen and probably ever will see. Quit throwing your best game under the bus and let everyone experience what is truly the best Final Fantasy game ever created.
Why must everyone cream their pants when talk of a VII remake surfaces? VII wasn't even that good. Hell, if it weren't for Red XIII that game would be my least favorite Final Fantasy game and my least favorite RPG game that I've played.
You want to remake a good game Square Enix? Remake VI. That is where the Final Fantasy series was at its best. Amazing characters, fantastic story, and the best damn villain the series has ever seen and probably ever will see. Quit throwing your best game under the bus and let everyone experience what is truly the best Final Fantasy game ever created.
See that's the thing, though. More people enjoy VII more than VI. I like how VII's villian had a stylish design and actual motives. I liked VII's world more than VI's. I liked the characters more than VI's. Overall, the atmosphere in VII was more captivating.
Although, Kefka's theme is probably better than Sephiroth's but hey.
... and Final Fantasy VI is still left in the dust. All the pre-3D era titles except that one were remade for the handhelds with bonus content as well as the 3D ones being sold on PSN. Six is stuck with a mediocre GBA port that removed the gold that was the dialogue.
Why must everyone cream their pants when talk of a VII remake surfaces? VII wasn't even that good. Hell, if it weren't for Red XIII that game would be my least favorite Final Fantasy game and my least favorite RPG game that I've played.
You want to remake a good game Square Enix? Remake VI. That is where the Final Fantasy series was at its best. Amazing characters, fantastic story, and the best damn villain the series has ever seen and probably ever will see. Quit throwing your best game under the bus and let everyone experience what is truly the best Final Fantasy game ever created.
See that's the thing, though. More people enjoy VII more than VI. I like how VII's villian had a stylish design and actual motives. I liked VII's world more than VI's. I liked the characters more than VI's. Overall, the atmosphere in VII was more captivating.
Although, Kefka's theme is probably better than Sephiroth's but hey.
I suppose so, but from my experience at least most of the people who enjoy VII more than VI have never played a Final Fantasy game that came before VII. Plus at the same time you can't deny there is a huuuuuuuge following for VI among the Final Fantasy crowd, yet VI never gets mentioned at all when it comes to remaking Final Fantasy games. It seems like they were content to remake I-IV, talk about V, then skip over VI, VIII, and IX to go to VII and X. If they want to remake VII, go for it cause I know people will love it. Hey, it might even give me a chance to change my mind on VII. But to remake it while ignoring what many argue is their best work to date would be absolutely foolish.
As a FF7 long term fan I can see where he's coming from: theres a lot in FF7 that makes no sense or could stand to be cut.. and more that could be improved on.
I'm all for it, so long as they pull in the original writers to tweak the plot, fix the plotholes, change around a few things, cut out the stuff that makes no sense caused by changing the main character from Zack to Cloud halfway through development.. oh and cut out the silly stuff from while you're stil in midgar slums, such as the cross dressing.
Then add in new locations like other parts of Midgar, some more towns and villages. Don't put in silly things like floating stores in the middle of nowhere.. and retain world exploring (no more long corridors for the love of all that is holy) and expansions on the quest, such as more Turk stuff.
Maybe put in something big like the chance to save Aeris.. though that might cause gaping plotholes... but two different game paths could lead to great replayability.
Even if they mess it up, its not like FF7 the original is going anywhere However a poorly done FF13 clone with all the same mistakes would severely disappoint many people.
Could also stand to have the ability to save Biggs and Jessie. I always thought those two would make awesome party members.
... and Final Fantasy VI is still left in the dust. All the pre-3D era titles except that one were remade for the handhelds with bonus content as well as the 3D ones being sold on PSN. Six is stuck with a mediocre GBA port that removed the gold that was the dialogue.
For the sake of argument, I'm referring to the most recent development on a title. Other than the few FMVs, FFVI in Anthology was a direct port.
I, II and V got revamped for the GBA. III and IV even got the whole shebang with 3D and voice acting. All of these also had extra content with those games lacking story-wise having their scripts greatly enhanced compared to the limited size of the original games. What of VI? Dragons.
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