Kojima Worried MGSV: The Phantom Pain "Too Big" for Players to Finish
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So this guy has apparently never heard of Skyrim, Fallout 3, Oblivion or Fallout New Vegas. Each of those is easily 100+ hours long, and he is worried about a game that takes slightly longer to complete than a movie?
He's actually probably talking about 100% completion specifically. If anyone has ever gone for 100% completion in a JRPG like Final Fantasy 10, they'll know why this doesn't really mean much. See the game itself is 30 hours at most if you really sit down and do all the side quests, but trying for 100% completion is incredibly frustrating because it's set up arbitrary and weird and very typically takes multiple play throughs for even a decent chance too do it. It's not fun, it's annoying, and unlike a game like Skyrim it doesn't mean the game is bigger, just that it takes longer to do things, which isn't the same thing.
In fairness, Japan is fairly insular. Maybe he HASN'T heard of those.008Zulu said:
On the other hand, there are tons and tons of JRPGs with that kind of depth.
Kojima's just making the usual Molyneux-style head-up-the-ass and promise the moon claims.
Divide that by five and you're closer.SonOfVoorhees said:If you skip all the cut scences you can complete the game in 20 hours.
Wow Peter Molyneux much Kojima?
I don't think he has to worry unless he has some sort of shit fast travel system like Dragons Dogma did.
I don't think he has to worry unless he has some sort of shit fast travel system like Dragons Dogma did.
Kojima, if I can finish Chrono Cross with all characters unlocked, I can finish whatever you can dish out.
(holy shit is that game padded)
(holy shit is that game padded)
So what you're saying is that it's not the size that counts, it's what you do with it? *drum rimshot*Adam Jensen said:
OT: Soooooooo...I'm going to ask the obvious question: does Kojima honestly expect us to believe that he's made a 400 hour game or is he just blowing exaggerations out of his ass? Because god damn...I didn't even put 400 hours into Skyrim. The only game that I know I've put 400 hours into is FFT (the real one for the original PS, not this War of the Lions business), and that's because I had gotten multiple play-throughs to read 99'99'99.
The real question is whether or not Kojima will take any crap when it turns out this is just your average 15-20 hour title.
Agreed, it is padded up the wazoo. Let me try a similar statement to yours:Atmos Duality said:
Kojima, if I can beat Shadow the Hedgehog 100% with all the Keys and A ranks on the missions, then I can finish anything you can dish out good sir. XD
On reflection...I wasted way too much time on that really bad game... >.>
Oh hell, I forgot Ground Zeroes was so soon. I'll wait until after I've played that to decide if I want to 100% The Phantom Pain.
Most games bought go unfinished, actually. Hell a good chunk of players don't even get half way through a game. It's just that most devs don't care as soon as they have your money.008Zulu said:
Also all of those can be finished in terms of the main plot in under five to eight hours, if not within an hour. Even with skipping cutscenes Kojima's games, and this is typically without side content to pad it out which makes up 99.999999~% of those sandbox games, can last you nearly ten hours. MGS4 had data installs longer than Skyrim's main story
*****, please, people complain about the lack of stuff to do on freaking Skyrim, you're severely underestimating them.
Having said that, YES!, I'm glad Kojima's "worried" about the game's size
Having said that, YES!, I'm glad Kojima's "worried" about the game's size
