Korean Officials Raid Blizzard

[Susurrus]

SNIP

Your logic seems to be: "It will be abused by people so it shouldn't be allowed."

But:
- Blizzard may have broken laws in South Korea
- People are unable to play a game they bought, because of Blizzard's bad customer service
- Consumer rights for computer games are some of the worst in existence already - it's incredibly hard to take PC games back to a shop. In the UK, for example, if you are unhappy with the quality of a product, there is a law stating that you can take it back, but if it's a computer game you have to state line and verse of UCTA before it WILL be taken back.

Blizzard made a huge profit off the game, and it seems like, even if some people might exploit a returns policy, that's a direct consequence of Blizard's failure to deal properly with the launch, and so their own fault. At some point they made a decision to cheap out on the number of servers, with the result that many people can't play their game. If it bites anyone in the arse, it SHOULD be Blizzard. It certainly shouldn't be those who bought the game, and then can't play it.

 

[Michael826]

After reading the Amazon feedback section, I'm seriously questioning whether or not I will buy this.

 

[WindKnight]

Guys, you might as well ignore Tony2077. He's either trolling or has his fingers so far in his ears going 'nah-nah, not listening' you're not going to change his mind. You get fanboys like him sometimes and there's just no real dealing way of them except ignoring them.

they can ignore me if they want to there just not smart enough. do you really want to side with people like that i sure don't

Aw, such a sweet little try (pats you on the head). you are the most adorable little troll. I'll keep you, and pet you, and call you george.

Either that, or imagine everything you say comes out in Cartmans voice.

 

[Tony2077]

Guys, you might as well ignore Tony2077. He's either trolling or has his fingers so far in his ears going 'nah-nah, not listening' you're not going to change his mind. You get fanboys like him sometimes and there's just no real dealing way of them except ignoring them.

they can ignore me if they want to there just not smart enough. do you really want to side with people like that i sure don't

Aw, such a sweet little try (pats you on the head). you are the most adorable little troll. I'll keep you, and pet you, and call you george.

Either that, or imagine everything you say comes out in Cartmans voice.

well it is fun to watch them trip over each other trying to defend stuff like this.

 

[Blatherscythe]

And all the while Korean gamers were saying to themselves "should have stuck with god-damn Starcraft, Blizz was less greedy and full of shit then".

 

[Joccaren]

well we're both set in our ways so i say i'll be over there if you need me playing d3 haha.

Thanks to your attitude towards this I hope you get error 37s for the next 7 months whilst trying to play. Maybe then you'll understand why people are a little pissed off.

 

[Tony2077]

well we're both set in our ways so i say i'll be over there if you need me playing d3 haha.

Thanks to your attitude towards this I hope you get error 37s for the next 7 months whilst trying to play. Maybe then you'll understand why people are a little pissed off.

maybe that would be a good thing then i'd stop playing it for ahwile

 

[Joccaren]

well we're both set in our ways so i say i'll be over there if you need me playing d3 haha.

Thanks to your attitude towards this I hope you get error 37s for the next 7 months whilst trying to play. Maybe then you'll understand why people are a little pissed off.

maybe that would be a good thing then i'd stop playing it for ahwile

Indeed. As it is I'm a bit pissed at Blizzard for failing yet again. First error 37s, then patch errors that I'm still waiting on a response for.
Still, better games to play I guess.

 

[w00tage]

Thank you South Korea for taking a stand to protect your consumers against US's predatory game industry. They've been legal-weaseling their way into misapplying the principle of caveat emptor to defraud US customers for over a decade now. I'm glad to see there's a country out there where the government will actually act in the best interests of its populace.

 

[Aeshi]

Enlighten me then, what point did he make? Because all I can see is "You meet the DRM requirements now, but later games might have DRM requirements you don't meet and YOU'LL BE SORRY THEN *compares DRM to Holocaust*"

 

[Evilpigeon]

I realize it would make absolutely no difference towards the success or future practices of Blizzard if they're found to have broken some South Korean commerce law.

And yet, if they are indeed found guilty, I will feel that a little bit of justice has been served. And I will laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

Of course it will, if they get fined heavily for problems caused by their always online system they're going to be far more cautious about trying something like this again. Money is a good motivator.

 

[Lvl 64 Klutz]

Money is a good motivator.

That goes both ways. If constant access to the auction house does indeed motivate more people to use it and brings them extra cash flow, they won't stop.

Think of it this way: Someone at Blizzard consciously decided to spend thousands of dollars on buying and maintaining servers for a game with no subscription fee. If they didn't think they could make that money back and then some through things like the AH, they wouldn't have done it.

 

[Jubbert]

"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me."

And when then they tried speaking out they got shot because the Nazis has soldiers and tanks and they didn't, now kindly come back when you have an 'argument' that isn't shitty poetry.

And now that I think about it did Korea do this sort of thing when WoW was unplayable for the first few weeks? 'cause I don't think they did.

My argument is that you shouldn't say "who cares about what's happening to other people's gaming experience, mine is fine" because the situation that they're in could very well happen to you. It's really a matter of luck that Tony has allegedly isn't having problems with playing it. The poem is supposed to say that you should speak out against injustice even if it doesn't directly affect you. Because if people let Blizzard get away with shitty always-online practices that don't even work the way they're supposed to, then other companies will follow suit, and before long we'll have shitty launches even for games that don't have a big MMO component.

 

[Zer_]

this is just as bad as the bullshit about the me3 ending when will it end.

Except this actually protects consumer rights as opposed to trying to make a game ending not suck.

the right to be assholes are the only rights i see being protected these days

That is a right just like any other but if you buy something than you fucken expect it to work so they have every right to complain about this and if you don't agree then you shouldn't complain about their complaining.

so if i don't agree with bullshit i should just stick my head in the ground?

How is wanting a game to work bullshit?

the thing is the game does work just because you live where there is a lousy connection doesn't change that basic

South Korea has the best internet in the world... Nice try.

 

[Tony2077]

this is just as bad as the bullshit about the me3 ending when will it end.

Except this actually protects consumer rights as opposed to trying to make a game ending not suck.

the right to be assholes are the only rights i see being protected these days

That is a right just like any other but if you buy something than you fucken expect it to work so they have every right to complain about this and if you don't agree then you shouldn't complain about their complaining.

so if i don't agree with bullshit i should just stick my head in the ground?

How is wanting a game to work bullshit?

the thing is the game does work just because you live where there is a lousy connection doesn't change that basic

South Korea has the best internet in the world... Nice try.

really can you say without a doubt that even when you have what considered the best internet that there won't be other factors or places even there that aren't that good

 

[Evilpigeon]

Money is a good motivator.

That goes both ways. If constant access to the auction house does indeed motivate more people to use it and brings them extra cash flow, they won't stop.

Think of it this way: Someone at Blizzard consciously decided to spend thousands of dollars on buying and maintaining servers for a game with no subscription fee. If they didn't think they could make that money back and then some through things like the AH, they wouldn't have done it.

True but the RMAH doesn't mean that the game has to be always online. I don't have so much of an issue with the auction house, just the forced always online which is biting blizz in the arse right now.

 

[alj]

Its the same in Europe with the bad servers. We pay more and get a crappy service. This is why i switched to the us servers and downloaded the us client. If i am going to pay a premium i should at least play on the servers that have the best support.

 

[SteewpidZombie]

I'm surprised that people didn't fight against the 'Always Online' feature before launch (the actual complaining was at a all time low), and now gamers are bitching about the fact that you get dropped from your own game if you aren't online, or unable to connect to full servers. In the end, it was the gamers and the fans who dropped the ball, not Blizzard. WE are the ones who should've stepped up and said "Blizzard, this is just a bad idea", it's because nobody stepped up that Blizzard just continued to go "Duuuuuuuur, lets make a decision that is functionally retarded in all practical senses...huuuuuuuuurrrrp aaaaa deeeeeeerp".

So by buying the game, and then wanting your money back you're making yourself look like a moron by having bought a product that you KNOW is going to have problems (Especially on launch, EVERY game has Launch problems).