Korean Officials Raid Blizzard

[Aeshi]

Enlighten me then, what point did he make? Because all I can see is "You meet the DRM requirements now, but later games might have DRM requirements you don't meet and YOU'LL BE SORRY THEN *compares DRM to Holocaust*"

 

[Evilpigeon]

I realize it would make absolutely no difference towards the success or future practices of Blizzard if they're found to have broken some South Korean commerce law.

And yet, if they are indeed found guilty, I will feel that a little bit of justice has been served. And I will laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

Of course it will, if they get fined heavily for problems caused by their always online system they're going to be far more cautious about trying something like this again. Money is a good motivator.

 

[Lvl 64 Klutz]

Money is a good motivator.

That goes both ways. If constant access to the auction house does indeed motivate more people to use it and brings them extra cash flow, they won't stop.

Think of it this way: Someone at Blizzard consciously decided to spend thousands of dollars on buying and maintaining servers for a game with no subscription fee. If they didn't think they could make that money back and then some through things like the AH, they wouldn't have done it.

 

[Jubbert]

"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me."

And when then they tried speaking out they got shot because the Nazis has soldiers and tanks and they didn't, now kindly come back when you have an 'argument' that isn't shitty poetry.

And now that I think about it did Korea do this sort of thing when WoW was unplayable for the first few weeks? 'cause I don't think they did.

My argument is that you shouldn't say "who cares about what's happening to other people's gaming experience, mine is fine" because the situation that they're in could very well happen to you. It's really a matter of luck that Tony has allegedly isn't having problems with playing it. The poem is supposed to say that you should speak out against injustice even if it doesn't directly affect you. Because if people let Blizzard get away with shitty always-online practices that don't even work the way they're supposed to, then other companies will follow suit, and before long we'll have shitty launches even for games that don't have a big MMO component.

 

[Zer_]

this is just as bad as the bullshit about the me3 ending when will it end.

Except this actually protects consumer rights as opposed to trying to make a game ending not suck.

the right to be assholes are the only rights i see being protected these days

That is a right just like any other but if you buy something than you fucken expect it to work so they have every right to complain about this and if you don't agree then you shouldn't complain about their complaining.

so if i don't agree with bullshit i should just stick my head in the ground?

How is wanting a game to work bullshit?

the thing is the game does work just because you live where there is a lousy connection doesn't change that basic

South Korea has the best internet in the world... Nice try.

 

[Tony2077]

this is just as bad as the bullshit about the me3 ending when will it end.

Except this actually protects consumer rights as opposed to trying to make a game ending not suck.

the right to be assholes are the only rights i see being protected these days

That is a right just like any other but if you buy something than you fucken expect it to work so they have every right to complain about this and if you don't agree then you shouldn't complain about their complaining.

so if i don't agree with bullshit i should just stick my head in the ground?

How is wanting a game to work bullshit?

the thing is the game does work just because you live where there is a lousy connection doesn't change that basic

South Korea has the best internet in the world... Nice try.

really can you say without a doubt that even when you have what considered the best internet that there won't be other factors or places even there that aren't that good

 

[Evilpigeon]

Money is a good motivator.

That goes both ways. If constant access to the auction house does indeed motivate more people to use it and brings them extra cash flow, they won't stop.

Think of it this way: Someone at Blizzard consciously decided to spend thousands of dollars on buying and maintaining servers for a game with no subscription fee. If they didn't think they could make that money back and then some through things like the AH, they wouldn't have done it.

True but the RMAH doesn't mean that the game has to be always online. I don't have so much of an issue with the auction house, just the forced always online which is biting blizz in the arse right now.

 

[alj]

Its the same in Europe with the bad servers. We pay more and get a crappy service. This is why i switched to the us servers and downloaded the us client. If i am going to pay a premium i should at least play on the servers that have the best support.

 

[SteewpidZombie]

I'm surprised that people didn't fight against the 'Always Online' feature before launch (the actual complaining was at a all time low), and now gamers are bitching about the fact that you get dropped from your own game if you aren't online, or unable to connect to full servers. In the end, it was the gamers and the fans who dropped the ball, not Blizzard. WE are the ones who should've stepped up and said "Blizzard, this is just a bad idea", it's because nobody stepped up that Blizzard just continued to go "Duuuuuuuur, lets make a decision that is functionally retarded in all practical senses...huuuuuuuuurrrrp aaaaa deeeeeeerp".

So by buying the game, and then wanting your money back you're making yourself look like a moron by having bought a product that you KNOW is going to have problems (Especially on launch, EVERY game has Launch problems).

 

[irishda]

You know what'll improve the customer service to the game you bought? If the government shuts down your servers.

 

[ResonanceSD]

this is just as bad as the bullshit about the me3 ending when will it end.

Except it isn't and these are actually legitimate complaints. I'm not sure what planet you're from that you can compare "shitty service complaints" to "we didn't like the ending".

I realize it would make absolutely no difference towards the success or future practices of Blizzard if they're found to have broken some South Korean commerce law.

And yet, if they are indeed found guilty, I will feel that a little bit of justice has been served. And I will laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

Obligatory SQUEE!!!!

OT: So glad I didn't buy D3

 

[Sheo_Dagana]

Holy shit, a cop when you need one...

 

[Strazdas]

Many of them have demanded their money back but Blizzard, citing EULA terms, has refused to do so;

EULA only has legal power in america. rest of the world treat it like it has no power when it comes to laws. You cant break the law and said EULA let us. So thier defence in this case is not going to work. But i do believe that the fans are overreacting. Sure servers are overloaded and alwayso nline is a ***** and whatnot, but to raid the company for it is a bit too far.

I'm surprised that people didn't fight against the 'Always Online' feature before launch (the actual complaining was at a all time low), and now gamers are bitching about the fact that you get dropped from your own game if you aren't online, or unable to connect to full servers. In the end, it was the gamers and the fans who dropped the ball, not Blizzard. WE are the ones who should've stepped up and said "Blizzard, this is just a bad idea", it's because nobody stepped up that Blizzard just continued to go "Duuuuuuuur, lets make a decision that is functionally retarded in all practical senses...huuuuuuuuurrrrp aaaaa deeeeeeerp".

Well complaints were there, its just that blizzard back then was of othe very few gamemakers that hasnt fucked up yet, so hopes were high. we told them it was a bad idea, but noone listened.

So by buying the game, and then wanting your money back you're making yourself look like a moron by having bought a product that you KNOW is going to have problems (Especially on launch, EVERY game has Launch problems).

Yes, they knew they were going to buy a game they hated, so it is thier fault for throwing money at blizzard. then, the koreans wanted their money back because service was unusable even with stable internet, which is kinda fair.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

Nice to see Blizzard being taken to task for once. It seems that company can do no wrong in the eyes of gamers, even though it often does the same things that EA gets a lot of BS for.

 

[Epic Fail 1977]

I thought an EULA couldn't override the law? At least I'm pretty sure that's how it is here (UK). If I agree to an EULA that contradicts my consumer rights, my consumer rights have priority - they override the EULA. Similar to how if person A signs a contract that says person B my murder him, the murder would still be illegal; the law overrides the contract. Right?

 

[Naeras]

Similar to how if person A signs a contract that says person B my murder him, the murder would still be illegal; the law overrides the contract. Right?

Wait, what?
Shit brb I have some corpses I need to hide.

 

[Ryan Minns]

Seems to be a lot of "I was not affected so no problem has taken place"

Reminds me of the Linux removal crap about the PS3, those completely unaffected with no actual logical reason supported the action and screamed raw hatred at those who actually had to suffer Sony's actions

"My Diablo 3 works with great latency and due to zero fault of your own you suffer a constant 400ms+ ping and frequent drops... lol what a loser, Blizzards not at fault for not supplying you with what you need! My logic states it's yours despite all forms of realist proving everything your end is perfect!"

 

[tehroc]

Blizzard should have known if there's one country that is serious about video games it's South Korea. They should have expect at least a quarter of S.Korea's total population was gonna try to login to the thing.

 

[Fearzone]

You want to bet they were a bunch of Starcraft Players and Blizzard fanboys who did the raiding?

 

[TK421]

this is just as bad as the bullshit about the me3 ending when will it end.

Except this actually protects consumer rights as opposed to trying to make a game ending not suck.

the right to be assholes are the only rights i see being protected these days

That is a right just like any other but if you buy something than you fucken expect it to work so they have every right to complain about this and if you don't agree then you shouldn't complain about their complaining.

so if i don't agree with bullshit i should just stick my head in the ground?

How is wanting a game to work bullshit?

the thing is the game does work just because you live where there is a lousy connection doesn't change that basic

What? Really? They payed 60 bucks for this thing, it doesn't work like it's supposed to, and you're defending that? You are the reason that consumers get screwed.