L4D2- Am I wrong? --Advice wanted--
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Irridium said:
Yeah I loved the music in Halo 3:ODST. Aside from Halo: Combat Evolved, it's my favorite in the series. Shame all other aspects of the game felt quite lackluster.
But the half-life series has interconnecting narrative, a continuous story, and generally likeable characters, while L4D2 doesn't share any of that with L4D (except the same apocalypse, but still.Jakesnake said:
I think he was upset that you, someone who reviewed the game, said that L4D2 was suposed to be a expansion thing. It is very different from its predosessor in many ways - and is worth the money. Not sure about the XBOX vesrsion, but the PC version is very different.afaceforradio said:
But playing any game by Valve on a console is just silly - same with playing online. Friends only game for the win
yea that was good, I also let myself get side tracked with the Batman dub linked to it....Thomas-101 said:You're very welcomeGanthrinor said:
I like mainly because I never played the first one so the whole experience was new for me. I'm the type of person who will replay a level just beat it using different guns, even there's no reason to. There is a role to suit everyone whether your run and gun or long range or blow shit up. I like it.
I am a huge fan of L4D, and L4D2 was even better in my oppinion. i think the thing that makes L4D2 dissappointing for players is two-fold. Firstly that it doesnt follow the rules of most sequels. Secondly that the first game was designed in was way that did not lend itself to the making of a traditional sequel.
To the first point. The main thing that grabbed my attention, and was the main source of dissapointment for me personally was the characters. I didnt see a reason why the original characters needed to be dropped, and i still havent really gotten around to liking any of the new characters particularly. while that bothered me only slightly, i can see it being a major problem when u consider that games are, for the most part, character driven. You become Francis, or Bill, or Soap Mc Tavish, or Dominic Santiago, or Master Chief, or Gordon Freeman, etc etc etc, and through the course of the first game you become attached to them. Part of the reason a sequel is expected by people is that once u generat a rapport with a character, u dont want it to end. U want the next chapter, u want the 'further adventures of'. L4D2 pretty much immediately pised on that from the word go.
Secondly, i find that, yes, the structure of the campaign mode is pretty samey, but then, its just another 5 missions really, same as the first one had four. you can jump in wherever you want, there are none of the now almost obligatory between (or mid) mission cutscenes we've all come to expect. its a different kind of game, almost arcade like, i think. while something different can be fun, if its well executed (as L4D1 was). But a second helping of pretty much the same thing, only with chopped nuts this time, can disappoint.
The rational part of my brain tells me i should be disappointed with L4D2, and perhaps on some levels i am, but franky its too much god damn fun. its sad its not the 'further adventures' of bill, francis, louis and zoe, but its still damn good. and its got spas 12s! haha
To the first point. The main thing that grabbed my attention, and was the main source of dissapointment for me personally was the characters. I didnt see a reason why the original characters needed to be dropped, and i still havent really gotten around to liking any of the new characters particularly. while that bothered me only slightly, i can see it being a major problem when u consider that games are, for the most part, character driven. You become Francis, or Bill, or Soap Mc Tavish, or Dominic Santiago, or Master Chief, or Gordon Freeman, etc etc etc, and through the course of the first game you become attached to them. Part of the reason a sequel is expected by people is that once u generat a rapport with a character, u dont want it to end. U want the next chapter, u want the 'further adventures of'. L4D2 pretty much immediately pised on that from the word go.
Secondly, i find that, yes, the structure of the campaign mode is pretty samey, but then, its just another 5 missions really, same as the first one had four. you can jump in wherever you want, there are none of the now almost obligatory between (or mid) mission cutscenes we've all come to expect. its a different kind of game, almost arcade like, i think. while something different can be fun, if its well executed (as L4D1 was). But a second helping of pretty much the same thing, only with chopped nuts this time, can disappoint.
The rational part of my brain tells me i should be disappointed with L4D2, and perhaps on some levels i am, but franky its too much god damn fun. its sad its not the 'further adventures' of bill, francis, louis and zoe, but its still damn good. and its got spas 12s! haha
I read it online, if it's wrong then I apologise - I like L4D2 very much, but he had no right to have a shit fit because I haven't played all through the campaigns - I've played more online like in the Survival matches, they're quick and fun, didn't realise there were rules! Needs to calm down!!mudshovel said:I think he was upset that you, someone who reviewed the game, said that L4D2 was suposed to be a expansion thing. It is very different from its predosessor in many ways - and is worth the money. Not sure about the XBOX vesrsion, but the PC version is very different.afaceforradio said:
But playing any game by Valve on a console is just silly - same with playing online. Friends only game for the win
As sequel is supposed to have the same core game mechanics. That's why its a sequel and not an entirely new game.
I really never understood this complaint.
"I loved L4D. L4D2 is L4D with new maps, new characters (meaning new funny dialog), new guns, new melee mechanics, new gameplay modes, and new special infected but how dare they not change the core game mechanics!"
Seriously, am I the only one who sees the contradiction here?
Valve kept everything that was great about the original and just added a bunch of new stuff. How is this bad! That is how a sequel is supposed to be made.
To use I tired old cliche, don't fix what isn't broken.
I really never understood this complaint.
"I loved L4D. L4D2 is L4D with new maps, new characters (meaning new funny dialog), new guns, new melee mechanics, new gameplay modes, and new special infected but how dare they not change the core game mechanics!"
Seriously, am I the only one who sees the contradiction here?
Valve kept everything that was great about the original and just added a bunch of new stuff. How is this bad! That is how a sequel is supposed to be made.
To use I tired old cliche, don't fix what isn't broken.
The Jakeinator said:
oh, Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have hit a valve fanboy! This is why I wanted good solid reasoning (which most of you have delivered thank you very much.)
The best part of L4D2 is the 'realism' mode, it is much harder but a great ride. No tooltips, no player halos. Just mic's and visual contact.afaceforradio said:I read it online, if it's wrong then I apologise - I like L4D2 very much, but he had no right to have a shit fit because I haven't played all through the campaigns - I've played more online like in the Survival matches, they're quick and fun, didn't realise there were rules! Needs to calm down!!mudshovel said:I think he was upset that you, someone who reviewed the game, said that L4D2 was suposed to be a expansion thing. It is very different from its predosessor in many ways - and is worth the money. Not sure about the XBOX vesrsion, but the PC version is very different.afaceforradio said:
But playing any game by Valve on a console is just silly - same with playing online. Friends only game for the win
The second one had it's fair share of new stuff. The general gameplay didn't change, but you can't really expect that to change in a sequel. It's like expecting a Call of Duty Modern warfare 3 to be a RTS.
I enjoyed the game quite a bit and I still love it.
I enjoyed the game quite a bit and I still love it.
