LaBeouf: It's My Fault Indiana Jones 4 Was No Good

Helgi

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I don't think he was the reason the movie wasn't good, but he certainly didn't help.
 

MDSnowman

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Not a LaBeouf fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I blame George Lucas forcing aliens down everyone's throats more than LaBeouf.
 

ShadowsofHope

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Let the apologetic Shia convention begin!

..Megan Fox, please join him or we will kill hunt you down, strap you in a chair, and make you watch both Transformers movies over and over again until you see where it went horribly wrong.
 

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Didnt hate it but didnt see any point to it existing either. Nice that he is comfortable publicly talking about what he really thought of it though i respect that.
 

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Yeah, Shia was surprisingly pretty good in the movie, all things considered. I mean, it's a pretty terrible role for anyone to be cast into. He has to simultaneously be the comic foil, represent the audience, play a son-like figure to Ford, and fit in with a decade worth of mythology. I sort of liked the movie, myself - for what it was. Unlike the Starwars prequels, there were genuine laughs to be had and a little bit of a sense of adventure and danger. The real problem is the Lucas habit of placing characters into CGI-d situations that are just too impossible to suspend disbelief. I'm looking at you, car chase sword fight.
 

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I think he's been spending too much time on the Internet reading comments by certain whining clinging complaining dipshits. The movie was a little out in left field for an Indiana Jones film, what with the aliens and all, but it wasn't all that bad and it's shortfalls certainly aren't all LaBeouf's fault. He shouldn't be so hard on himself, and for Heaven's sake, stay away from Internet forums!
 

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I was just reading an article on yahoo where Shia was talking about how the second Transformers movie didn't live up to expectations. I think he's being kinda hard on himself.

Yeah, the latest Indiana Jones movie wasn't quite up to the quality of the others, but I think it's more about the writing than anything else.
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
danpascooch said:
And seriously, whoever decided those two racist steriotype bots should be in the movie, should seriously be shot in the face.
Ok, I have been waiting for years to point this out to someone. The robots cannot be racist because they DON'T HAVE A RACE. If you looked at their traits and characteristics and associated them with black people, that makes you the racist. (I'm not actually accusing you of racism, I'm just proving a point) Let me try to explain this. The robots, by definition, cannot be black. But they still made you think of black people, because of their (what I hesitate to call) character traits. That means that you (and pretty much everyone else) associated those traits with black people, not Michael Bay. Because his characters are robots, not black people.

Was Transformers 2 a horrible train-wreck of a film? Absolutely. Was it racist? No.
But you know, they still are racist, because although I don't think of black people in the way that those two robots act, those are the typical traits that people stereotype with black people, and those two robots had ALL of the stereotypes. They had basically every racist black stereotype I can think of. Just because I noticed them doesn't mean I agree with them, but when you pile such a ridiculous number of stereotypes that racist people associate with African American's, what other explanation can there possibly be?

I mean, if they had a robot that loved chinese food, couldn't speak English well, was a terrible driver, and excellent at Martial Arts, I would call that racist too, because you can obviously tell what they meant by putting all of those stereotypes into a single character.

So I'll just say this once:

NOTICING RACISM DOES NOT MAKE ME RACIST.

I did not associate those traits with black people, I associated those traits to what racist people associate to black people, BIG difference. I don't think of black people that way, but I certainly think that racist people think of black people that way. There were just WAY too many black stereotypes for it to be a coincidence.
 

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I didn't think the movie was bad at all. A couple cringe-worthy moments, but they're not anything that ruined the movie for me.

Nivag the Owl said:
You know what? I've always quite liked the 4th Indiana Jones film. From what I can see, most people criticise the film greatly because of the inclusion of aliens. But you people are forgetting something. The first one has ghosts. GHOSTS. The second one has sacred stones and super powers. The third one has the holy grail, substantial healing holy water and a 900 year old man. But aliens? The only one in the list that's even remotely plausible? That's way over the line! The only other complaint (forgetting the concept and focusing on the execution) is that Harrison Ford is old.
Exactly! People act like the movie was about Indy was fighting off an alien invasion. Thankfully it wasn't. (Though apparently that actually is what George Lucas originally wanted to do...thank god for Spielberg) All it was was Indy carrying around a skull the entire movie. Though I will agree that the UFO scene was a bit too much. Otherwise, I had no problems with it. Also, for all you people who complain about the fridge scene: how is that any more ridiculous then jumping out of an airplane on an inflatable raft and riding it down a mountain?
 

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Honestly I think Shia Lebeouf, Harrison Ford ect. all did fine in the acting. The villains were the only ones I'd call "bad ators" per se, and onus for the films failings lie entirely within its script and plot. Actors can bring life to roles, but they can't magically make the plot make more sense, or re-edit the movie.
 

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He acted a mediocre role well. That's about all we could ask from him. Lucas is to blame here. Granted the movie wasn't that bad, but a 6/10 is still disappointing.
 

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I honestly didn't think Crystal Skull was that bad. It was better than Temple of Doom at times. Certainly not as big a train wreck as the Star Wars Prequels.

That being said it really didn't need to exist, but it's certainly not LeBeouf's fault it wasn't quite on par with the old movies.
 

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My respect for LaPoof has risen...not enough that I can't stop making fun of his name however.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
I thought the reason was Terrible story, not LaBeouf.
I fully agree. I mean I felt the story was just stupid and no actor could have fixed it. I quite like Shia LaBeouf. I loved him in Even Stevens and I don't quite mind his films following that show. I mean I didn't even think Transformers 2 was that bad personally. Then again I don't have that much of an attachment to the original series and as such I liked it as a big dumb action film. I also thought he was good in Disturbia.
 

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I dont hate him as an actor, its just that he plays the same character in every film (that I have seen with him in anyway). The whiney american teenager, whos a bit of a loser as well. I robot and transformers fare the only current ones I can think of, he is the same guy in both
 

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I'm no fan of LaBeouf, but I'm more inclined to blame to production/direction team then him, since they actually approved and made the movie and it's sloppy script.