Hopeless Bastard said:
PhunkyPhazon said:
I didn't think the movie was bad at all. A couple cringe-worthy moments, but they're not anything that ruined the movie for me.
Nivag the Owl said:
You know what? I've always quite liked the 4th Indiana Jones film. From what I can see, most people criticise the film greatly because of the inclusion of aliens. But you people are forgetting something. The first one has ghosts. GHOSTS. The second one has sacred stones and super powers. The third one has the holy grail, substantial healing holy water and a 900 year old man. But aliens? The only one in the list that's even remotely plausible? That's way over the line! The only other complaint (forgetting the concept and focusing on the execution) is that Harrison Ford is old.
Exactly! People act like the movie was about Indy was fighting off an alien invasion. Thankfully it wasn't. (Though apparently that actually is what George Lucas originally wanted to do...thank god for Spielberg) Also, for all you people who complain about the fridge scene. How is that any more ridiculous then jumping out of an airplane on an inflatable raft and riding it down a mountain?
You're both wrong.
Explain ghosts. Times up, you can't. If they exist they're completely metaphysical instances that can't be quantified or studied. They defy all physical law and everything we know about reality. The idea of an ancient artifact summoning hostile spirits who's entire function is to strike down anyone stupid enough to look upon the artifact is equally unexplainable.
Explain aliens. People from another world. Explain their technology. you will be able to eventually.
Its the midichlorians all over again. Technology/biology is the complete absence of mysticism and mystery. The goal of all -ologies is to quantify and reproduce. While -isms are superstition.
Wow, not much point in a timer if it runs out two seconds after you say "go!", now is there? The original movies all revolved around religion, which means they all have one thing in common: God. Nothing is hard to explain when all you have to do is say "God did it." Which is pretty much exactly what they did in all three movies. (Not quite as much in Temple of Doom, but they certainly don't rule it out, either) And the aliens weren't just from another world, they were from an entirely different dimension. On top of that, they were psychic beings who apparently knew everything. Sure, all these things could be explained eventually (While the other movies can be explained with just one word), but as it stands there is certainly still an aura of mystery concerning where exactly they came from, why they came to earth, what it is they know, and how their psychic powers work.
That, and I really don't get everyone's fascination with -isms anyways. You wanna know what I think of midi-chlorians? I don't care. Why should I? It doesn't make the force any less bad-ass for me, it's just an ultra fancy way of saying "The force is alive in all living things." Alright, granted, it does mean that the force is more alive in some then in others, but is it really that big a deal? Does it truly ruin the force so badly that people can't look past it?
