LaBeouf: It's My Fault Indiana Jones 4 Was No Good

[ThrobbingEgo]

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I dunno. When aliens are in a story and religious mythology is played straight, it's like some kind of genre-based cognitive dissonance. They bend my suspension of disbelief in two different directions and it breaks. I'm willing to suspend my belief for one in a fictional narrative, but not both.

It's why Indigo Prophecy gets so messed up.

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I'm willing to accept that the big bad has magical powers and, okay, he's a Mayan Oracle. Ruins some of the mystery, but I can accept it. Once I find out that Agatha's spirit is a manifestation of an AI that's gained consciousness the late 80s and willed itself into existance, and I can't take the story seriously. It doesn't help us that the main character was exposed to radiation in the womb that gave him magical powers. You can't take a story with too many conflicting unreal elements seriously. It just becomes an amalgamation of nonsense.

 

[Cewebwalz]

In my opinion, they should have dropped the Indie label. I liked the movie. It's my least favorite of the quadrilogy (I rank the first three equally. The hell's with all these 2 haters? It was awesome!), but it could have been better if the same actors where given different characters to play. Have the movie be inspired, rather then a sequel.

 

[Doitpow]

I don't mind Shia...
he's quite funny.

Wait..he was in Surf's Up! I love him.

 

[Tdc2182]

He's giving himself a bit of a hard time recently isn't he?

I wonder what's wrong with him...(I can hear you all crying "He's a shite actor" already)

I've been thinking that too. Maybe he will prove himself to us... One day

 

[AWDMANOUT]

Dear Mr. LaBOOF:

You are a terrible actor in general.

Though, I appreciate you for finally realizing this. Even if it is in a tiny, almost off-hand way.

Just... go back to Even Stevens. That was ok. Hanging out with shady characters like Michael Bay is not good for you.

Sincerely,
The general public.

P.S. I'm serious about the going back to Even Stevens bit, I actually half-enjoyed that.

 

[Grey_Focks]

I don't see how it's his fault that he keeps being typecast as "annoying teenager #1" in everything he's in. He had a tough job in this movie, and, for the most part, he did well. I blame Lucas (or the people who SHOULD be revising his work, more likely) for this movie. It wasn't prequel trilogy bad, not at all, but it didn't even live up to the temple of doom, ffs.

I think he may have stumbled onto our site, my fellow escapists, or, dare I say, 4chan, which has prompted this apology and his promise that transformers 3 won't suck. None of the films I've seen him in have sucked BECAUSE of him, but more because of just bad writing. I think he just needs to be given a different kind of role.

 

[MrSnugglesworth]

I quite liked it, thought it was good fun.
It's not his fault if the people who were nursing their nostalgia kept moaning...

I think its not only the Nostalgia anymore.

The Alien part was quite weird, as was the monkey swinging.


Other than that I didn't mind the movie


But seriously, Aliens?

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I thought he was kinda lack luster in it myself, but I don't believe he deserves to be blamed for it.

He is being to hard on himself. The worst part of the film was the writing and plot. It just didn't work in my opionon. An actor can't bring the movie to life if the Character he is playing is crap. The writers share a much bigger part of the blame.

 

[hellswarmglow]

There is nothing wrong with liking LaBeouf and his movies. Speaking as a fan from his Even Stevens career, he has definitely become more polished as an actor. Not perfect, but at least he tries.

 

[Wildrow12]

Hell, if he REALLY wants to apologize for something why not Transformers 2?

Yep. This. If he apologizes for Transformers 1 & 2 I may have to take back everything I've ever said about the man (and Lord knows I've said quite a bit).

In all seriousness though, While I applaud LaBeouf for taking one for the team, I also must point to the Madden Loss Responsibility Statement: "No one player causes a team to lose".

Lucas's hands are the dirtiest here, but virtually everyone involved had a part in why it was a joke.

 

[Canid117]

Yeah Crystal Skull wasn't up to par with the first three but it did manage at least to not take a big smelly all encompassing shit on the entire franchise like the Star Wars prequels. Hell, if he REALLY wants to apologize for something why not Transformers 2?

He did apologize for Transformers 2 a few days ago.

If you think that Crystal Skull didn't take a huge shit on the franchise then may I direct your attention to the psychic aliens and ask you to reassess your feelings on the issue.

 

[Hawkeye16]

It wasn't a bad movie, it just shouldn't have existed. No matter how good the movie turned out it still wouldnt have appeased the original fans.

 

[WrongSprite]

But seriously, Aliens?

Oh yeah, Aliens was just wierd.

Because a drink that makes you immortal, and ghosts that kill people are COMPLETELY realistic.

 

[WrongSprite]

Yeah Crystal Skull wasn't up to par with the first three but it did manage at least to not take a big smelly all encompassing shit on the entire franchise like the Star Wars prequels. Hell, if he REALLY wants to apologize for something why not Transformers 2?

If you think that Crystal Skull didn't take a huge shit on the franchise then may I direct your attention to the psychic aliens and ask you to reassess your feelings on the issue.

Again, how are the holy grail and the ark any different to aliens? In fact, the aliens are more realistic, because they could actually exist.

 

[obisean]

And seriously, whoever decided those two racist steriotype bots should be in the movie, should seriously be shot in the face.

Ok, I have been waiting for years to point this out to someone. The robots cannot be racist because they DON'T HAVE A RACE. If you looked at their traits and characteristics and associated them with black people, that makes you the racist. (I'm not actually accusing you of racism, I'm just proving a point) Let me try to explain this. The robots, by definition, cannot be black. But they still made you think of black people, because of their (what I hesitate to call) character traits. That means that you (and pretty much everyone else) associated those traits with black people, not Michael Bay. Because his characters are robots, not black people.

Was Transformers 2 a horrible train-wreck of a film? Absolutely. Was it racist? No.

******.

Now what did you think of? As an ethnic slur, it refers to black people in a very derogatory way. As a word it refers to a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc. So if by saying the word "******" I am racist eventhough the term really has no race attached to it, then so are these robots.

tl;dr
Just because something has no race directly attached, doesn't mean it can't be racist.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

I thought most people didn't like it cause there were aliens in it (ALIENS) but I loved the freedom fridge part

 

[jamescorck]

Wow. You know, I don't think LaBeouf was to blame for this. It's obvious that George Lucas murdered the movie like he did with the prequels of Star Wars. But you have to admire the guts of this guy. I never hated him, but I can safely say now that I deeply admire him a lot.

 

[RTR]

He also said that he didn't like Transformers 2. Humble guy indeed. Maybe he's just growing up as an actor.

 

[Nomanslander]

If we could bare with Short Round in Temple of Doom, not to forget Willy....Ughh!!

There's no reason we couldn't bare with Shia's character.

A shitty script is a shitty script...=/

It's not his fault if the people who were nursing their nostalgia kept moaning...

Nah, Nostalgia had nothing to do with it, the movie was garbage straight and simple....=/

I think you're just comparing it to the likes of what we've been left with since 'The Last Crusade.'

Lara Croft??

Treasure Hunter??

Sahara??

and then another Indy movie came along and it felt like gold....I think if anything Nostalgia made the movie seem better than it was. It's definitely better than the ones I just mentioned, but the bar was set way too high with the trilogy.

Plus even as a stand alone movie, it had issues...=/

 

[Mr.Pandah]

I actually liked his acting in it. He shouldn't be this hard on himself. He was fun and had that sense of adventure about him which worked well with the whole Indiana Jones feel. It wasn't his fault, it was the scenes he was put in that sucked. Not much you can do about swinging with monkeys...