Large Hadron Collider Creates Incredibly Dense Primordial Matter

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Nah, considering just how much gravity we'd need to achieve that, the Earth will have been long consumed by the ultra-massive black hole we'd have to create.

Never really liked the term "black hole", it implies a hole in space when it is actually a superdense physical object.

If earth were crushed, it would make the sugar cube sized object a few atoms bigger. Still it would be nice to see the LHC up close if this happened, as our bodies would be slowly spaghettified by the massive gravitational forces originating there.

 

[Dana22]

I'm talking about the possibility for the existence of a supernatural being such as those described by modern Theists

Ah, possibility. Theists has not presented a single evidence that met burden of proof. Science provided countless evidence to counter Theistic claims allegedly supporting the idea of 'gods'. Yet, the thing you want is an argument to disprove it.

[Obviously if you don't currently know of any evidence, none must exist.

Holy carp, its really not that hard. Atheists dont say there is no evidence, but that Theists didn't presented any.

 

[PyroZombie]

I can't help but think that this is incredibly bad. This shit isn't meant to be here if it weighs this much in a suger cube form.

In short, Get it the fuck off my planet, please, I got things to do.

 

[Goldeneye1989]

Quark-gluon plasma is denser than that. LHC team leader David Evans says: "If you had a cubic centimeter of this stuff, it would weigh 40 billion tons." Somehow, a material such as this can exist in its current quantity without destroying everything we know and love.

Wait, Could someone explain to me, Does this mean we have the probability of hydroelectric cold Fusion?

Edit: Also, how was it created, there must have been some traces of it, therefore if you then moved it to where it's being observed wouldn't that change where it was and therefore change the gravity pull?

 

[Dana22]

Holy carp, its really not that hard. Atheists dont say there is no evidence, but that Theists didn't presented any.

Again: 'I see no evidence, so rather than look, I will assume there is none.'

I don't like that sort of logic.

Im not making the claim, why I would look for the evidence for it ? I thought Theists are doing it ?

And again, by that reasoning, you would need to believe in EVERYTHING. Of course, you are making a special case for religion, which is understandable, otherwise people would think you are just a weirdo. But Religion is a serious businesses, so you are a scholar.

 

[Wieke]

Nah, considering just how much gravity we'd need to achieve that, the Earth will have been long consumed by the ultra-massive black hole we'd have to create.

Never really liked the term "black hole", it implies a hole in space when it is actually a superdense physical object.

If earth were crushed, it would make the sugar cube sized object a few atoms bigger. Still it would be nice to see the LHC up close if this happened, as our bodies would be slowly spaghettified by the massive gravitational forces originating there.

Not to rain on your parade but dropping said cube on the floor would have a negligible effect. According to wolframalpha [http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=40+billion+tons+%2F+earth+weight] said cube weighs 6.074/1000000000000th as much as the earth. So neither the sun nor the moon would be pulled towards us.

That said I'd expect it to blow up since such a small amount of such a dense material can never be stable. It won't have the gravity necessary to maintain it's density so it would expand in a violent manner. (I guess.)

 

[mistwolf]

Holy carp, its really not that hard. Atheists dont say there is no evidence, but that Theists didn't presented any.

Again: 'I see no evidence, so rather than look, I will assume there is none.'

I don't like that sort of logic.

For my 2 cents, it's more that there are so many measurable and realistic things we can be studying, like how the universe formed and ultra dense particles and such, that seeking evidence of fairy tales is just silly.

That said, I'm not entirely sure if I would be agnostic, or atheistic, but in the end any diety that allowed our world to go on as it has without intervening to make things better, and who threatens people with eternal torture and pain if they don't read his book, isn't a being I would want to be associated with anyway.

In short, if God exists, he is a cruel and sadistic bastard who makes psychopathic dictators look moral and right.

 

[coheedswicked]

Quark-gluon plasma is denser than that. LHC team leader David Evans says: "If you had a cubic centimeter of this stuff, it would weigh 40 billion tons." Somehow, a material such as this can exist in its current quantity without destroying everything we know and love.

Wait, Could someone explain to me, Does this mean we have the probability of hydroelectric cold Fusion?

Edit: Also, how was it created, there must have been some traces of it, therefore if you then moved it to where it's being observed wouldn't that change where it was and therefore change the gravity pull?

Idk about the fusion bit, but it was made by colliding two lead ions together at near light speed. The LHC is designed to collide particles at a specific point where instruments can collect data at the instant of the collision as substances like these exist for mere nanoseconds.

On a side note:
How quickly we had digressed to the science vs. religion battle in which the sides attempt to use logic to refute the other. The logic of the argument however is fundamentally flawed,as science is an attempt to describe the physical universe,and religion attempts to describe deities, which by definition are non-physical, and thus cannot be described by science. Likewise, many modern religions do not attempt to describe the physical universe, as religion is an attempt to describe the non-physical. True science does not attempt to prove or disprove religion and true religion in turn does not try to prove or disprove science.

 

[YamadaJisho]

Mmm, sweet sugary science!

 

[Doclector]

Wait a minute. That stuff has it's own gravity. Which means...we are a step closer to that wall-walking gel that didn't make it into portal 2!

For science!

 

[Jonabob87]

I'm no scientists...but if it's "100,000 times hotter than the sun" how are we containing it? Why hasn't it melted through the collider?

I am hoping to be educated on this by one of you lovely people.

Similarly to how a single atom of 3500 degree Celsius Tungsten won't burn your finger. Each atom of Tungsten at that temperature may have a very large amount of energy stored within, but there is only a single atom, and as a result there isn't enough energy to burn you.
I don't think it says how much of the stuff was made, but knowing what sort of masses the LHC deals with, my guess is barely any. Otherwise, as you correctly pointed out, it would have melted through the collider.

I'm no scientists...but if it's "100,000 times hotter than the sun" how are we containing it? Why hasn't it melted through the collider?

I am hoping to be educated on this by one of you lovely people.

High energy particles created in colliders will only usually last mere nanoseconds before they blink out of existence or simply evaporate. If it is really that hot and energetic, it's giving up a lot of radiation.

I'm no scientists...but if it's "100,000 times hotter than the sun" how are we containing it? Why hasn't it melted through the collider?

I am hoping to be educated on this by one of you lovely people.

::Edit::

Nevermind, someone said magnets. I don't get that either but it's late so alright.

I'd doubt if it's contained, the stuff the make at the LHC lasts for fractions of seconds, there will be very little quark-gluon plasma when they make it and it'll cool down and reform into normal matter in less time than you could possible notice passing.

Thanks for the answers guys, you've hit me with some education!

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Not to rain on your parade but dropping said cube on the floor would have a negligible effect. According to wolframalpha [http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=40+billion+tons+%2F+earth+weight] said cube weighs 6.074/1000000000000th as much as the earth. So neither the sun nor the moon would be pulled towards us.

That said I'd expect it to blow up since such a small amount of such a dense material can never be stable. It won't have the gravity necessary to maintain it's density so it would expand in a violent manner. (I guess.)

I forgot how heavy the earth was, that and I misread the weight and temperatures around the wrong way.

External gravity would have no effect on it, the matter has it's own density. Would be interesting to see what would happen if you dropped it from up high though. Impact force equals weight times velocity. Just have to figure out what the objects maximum velocity is in earth's atmosphere.

 

[Trolldor]

I'm not one making the claim, burden of proof doesn't lie on me.

You're making the claim there is no god(s) and Theists are making the claim there is. Agnostics are the ones making no claims and also therefore the only ones not needing to supply any evidence to support their position.

Wrong.

Atheism makes no claim. It is the absence of belief, not the belief in absence.
Agnostic and Gnostic are degrees of knowledge, not positions of belief.
If you do not ascribe to any belief you are an atheist because you lack belief in god. If you do not think it can be known you are agnostic. If you do not ascribe to any religion and claim that it can not be known you are an agnostic atheist.

Secondly, even if someone claimed 'there is no god', it's a negative claim. You can't prove a negative. In order to prove the non-existence of something we can't produce evidence because a non-existent entity would leave no trace. The burden on proof is on the positive claim, the assertion something is true. The opposite claim is a refutation.

And, to further extend, we have no need to 'prove' the non-existence of a deity until it evidence has been provided that one does exist.

Innocent until guilty, the burden of proof is on the prosecution not the defense.

Thank you, come again.

 

[SD-Fiend]

Alrighty, let me be the first to say this, so what?

I mean, does anybody gain anything from this hyperdense trash-compaction system?

"I'll be honest, we're throwing science at the walls here to see what sticks. No idea what it'll do."

Cave jhonson

 

[Ekonk]

This is truly an exciting time to live in.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

Someone had better make a sugarcubed sized blob of this stuff and just drop it on the floor whilst filming with a slow-mo camera.

The results would be hilarious.

There, fixed

 

[Tdc2182]

Can we sign a petition or something to get people to stop fucking with things that can decimate humanity?

Seriously. I'm actually a tad bit surprised this substance didn't do any damage to the world.