Large Hadron Collider Creates Incredibly Dense Primordial Matter

archvile93

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Wait gluon is an actual word? It isn't something Valve made up to make a weapon sound deadly and experimental?

OT: Now all we need to do is find a use for this stuff and we'll be set.
 

Mike the Bard

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now thats cool. but what i find to be even better is the fact that the thing isn't even at full operation capacity. just makes you wonder what kind of crazy nonsense they will come up with next.
 

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Dana22 said:
Science: 647 God: 0

Yet more then half of population of earth still believes in deities.
Don't forget that the [Insert Holy Book Here] says that God created everything, and therefore anything science discovers is merely rediscovering God's work or a lie.

archvile93 said:
Wait gluon is an actual word? It isn't something Valve made up to make a weapon sound deadly and experimental?

OT: Now all we need to do is find a use for this stuff and we'll be set.
What better way to make a high-energy weapon sound deadly and experimental than by using the name of a powerful and exotic elementary particle in it?
 

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Someone had better make a sugarcubed sized blob of this stuff and just drop it on the floor.

The results would be hilarious.
crack the earth down the middle, lol
 

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aldt said:
It's important to note that in order to create a sugar-cube-size volume of quark-gluon plasma, you'd need to already have 40 billion tons of uncompressed matter, or the equivalent energy. Plus, a particle accelerator large enough to smash it all together.

And if you already have that much matter, all the insane gravitational consequences (Sun crashing into Earth, et cetera) would already have happened. Thermodynamics, baby - you can't get something from nothing.

It's like a system's orbit. If a star of mass greater than 20 solar masses was instantly compressed to its schwarzchild radius, the planets orbiting that star wouldn't get sucked into the black hole. The gravitational effects would still be more or less the same at great distances. Of course, the star would really have to go supernova first, either melting or pushing away its orbiting planets, so such a scenario would never actually happen.
god damn thermodynamics have to ruin EVERYTHING >_>
 

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Dulcinea said:
Dana22 said:
Science: 647 God: 0

Yet more then half of population of earth still believes in deities.
The real issue is: can you disprove any deity (or deities)? Until someone can disprove the existence of any and all gods, I will remain Agnostic. It'd be just as foolhardy to jump on the Atheist wagon and claim there is no deity with no evidence to back you up, right?
You are slightly confused. Atheists dont claim there is no god, they dont believe that there are gods, based on lack of evidence supporting Theistic claims.

Of course you cant disprove existence of deities (like plenty of things I can make up right now), but why would I want to do that ? Im not one making the claim, burden of proof doesn't lie on me.
 

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Dulcinea said:
Dana22 said:
I'm not one making the claim, burden of proof doesn't lie on me.
You're making the claim there is no god(s) and Theists are making the claim there is. Agnostics are the ones making no claims and also therefore the only ones not needing to supply any evidence to support their position.
Except im not making a claim that there is no god. Im making a claim, that claim that gods exists, is (most likely, of course) false. Thats not the same.
 

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I don't want them to report anything else out of that facility until they've either doomed us totally or unraveled the secrets of existence. All this foreplay is driving me insane.

"Hey everyone, we just discovered something ELSE that could kill you all, if only we could make enough of it!"
 

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Dulcinea said:
Dana22 said:
Dulcinea said:
Dana22 said:
I'm not one making the claim, burden of proof doesn't lie on me.
You're making the claim there is no god(s) and Theists are making the claim there is. Agnostics are the ones making no claims and also therefore the only ones not needing to supply any evidence to support their position.
Except im not making a claim that there is no god. Im making a claim, that claim that gods exists, is (most likely, of course) false. Thats not the same.
So, tell me, do any deities exist?
There is no evidence that they do, thus we can assume that they dont.
 

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Dana22 said:
Dulcinea said:
Dana22 said:
Dulcinea said:
Dana22 said:
I'm not one making the claim, burden of proof doesn't lie on me.
You're making the claim there is no god(s) and Theists are making the claim there is. Agnostics are the ones making no claims and also therefore the only ones not needing to supply any evidence to support their position.
Except im not making a claim that there is no god. Im making a claim, that claim that gods exists, is (most likely, of course) false. Thats not the same.
So, tell me, do any deities exist?
There is no evidence that they do, thus we can assume that they dont.
By this logic, we can also assume that no other intelligent life exists beyond humanity.

A common logical fallacy.
 

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So, tell me, do any deities exist?
Youve missed the point, anyway you two, back to topic k thanks.

So with this gluon being hotter than the sun, could it not be used toward making nuclear fusion possible?
 

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By this logic, we can also assume that no other intelligent life exists beyond humanity. A common logical fallacy.
There is sort of evidence for the possibility of life in the universe other than our own. I believe Carl Sagan once used a mathematical equation to carry this out.
 

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Dulcinea said:
So rather than search for the evidence, you find it better to assume they don't and won't offer any evidence in support of your side either?

'They don't have any evidence, therefore I will assume none exists.'

You're welcome to your opinion, but I'll stick to looking for answers.
Ok, heres one for you. Im standing behind you right now, and I am, and will follow every your move from now on. But im invisible and immaterial, and I dont emit or reflect any type of radiation. Godspeed. Add it to your pile of infinite claims you will search evidence for.

Bere27 said:
By this logic, we can also assume that no other intelligent life exists beyond humanity.

A common logical fallacy.
Nope. We have evidence of intelligent life on earth, ergo there is a possibility for such life to exist somewhere else in the universe. And if we add variables, like the number of stars in the universe, it is almost certain that intelligent life exists beyond humanity.