Large Hadron Collider Creates Incredibly Dense Primordial Matter

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Para199x

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Gnikhcil said:
look i have nothing good to say about the hadron collider but i understand that some people want to know things that badly but my question is why do they need more then one? thats just asking for a problem one miss-hap or terrorist and bam! nothing.... it scares me i don't care how careful they are.
You realise if there was a problem or a mis-hap all that would happen would be that the collider would be damaged right? Also you need several because they have energy ranges, if you don't find a predicted particle in one energy range you need another collider to look for it elsewhere
 

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Dulcinea said:
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I'm not one making the claim, burden of proof doesn't lie on me.
You're making the claim there is no god(s) and Theists are making the claim there is. Agnostics are the ones making no claims and also therefore the only ones not needing to supply any evidence to support their position.
Except im not making a claim that there is no god. Im making a claim, that claim that gods exists, is (most likely, of course) false. Thats not the same.
So, tell me, do any deities exist?
There is no evidence that they do, thus we can assume that they dont.
So rather than search for the evidence, you find it better to assume they don't and won't offer any evidence in support of your side either?

'They don't have any evidence, therefore I will assume none exists.'

You're welcome to your opinion, but I'll stick to looking for answers.
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That's basically scientific method, you assume the simplest case until there is evidence otherwise, that doesn't mean you don't look for evidence for things you've never seen but you don't try to prove they DON'T exist because that's impossible.
 

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Dubaian said:
So, tell me, do any deities exist?
Youve missed the point, anyway you two, back to topic k thanks.

So with this gluon being hotter than the sun, could it not be used toward making nuclear fusion possible?
With it being so dense, it's not really possible to use it to heat anything, and the quantities it's producible in and the amount of energy it requires, you're better off trying to reach ignition point using a coal fire :p
 

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I saw 'primordial matter' and I instantly thought "EVERYONE GETS HUGGED AND TURNS INTO TANG".

I think I need to turn of End of Eva and go to bed.
 

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I can prove something doesn't exist; I guarantee you something doesn't currently exist that, when it does exist, makes everything appear pink to everyone.
Well you could do that with contact lenses and colouring the middle pink, how do you know that some alien race hasn't made that?

Or an atom or molecule which happens to have absorption resonances with all the visible light spectrum and remits it all as pink, or a pink light bulb. Not having seen something which does something is not proof
 

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Para199x said:
A device created on Earth that when used on a koala will transform the into a huge, drunken and horny bear whose purpose in life is to travel to New York and fuck a lady of the night while being showered in gold flakes and honey.
 

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A device created on Earth that when used on a koala will transform the into a huge, drunken and horny bear whose purpose in life is to travel to New York and fuck a lady of the night while being showered in gold flakes and honey.
Taking my argument to a ridiculous extreme to refute it is a logical fallacy, however, you still can not know that that doesn't exist. Do you know everything which exists on Earth? I don't, nobody does. When you've finished searching the globe to show it's not there, remember it could have just been moving around the globe and you'd never see it. What about in the deep ocean? What if it was created by an advanced alien race and has been taken to another planet or put in the earth's core.

I'm pretty sure this thing doesn't exist and until somebody gives me evidence it does I wont believe that it exists, but that's the point I'm making. You can't ever know something that hasn't been discovered doesn't exist, you can only show something does exist, and so the burden of proof is on the theists
 

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MonocleClaire said:
Para199x said:
A device created on Earth that when used on a koala will transform the into a huge, drunken and horny bear whose purpose in life is to travel to New York and fuck a lady of the night while being showered in gold flakes and honey.
How do you know that that doesn't exist? Perhaps I invented one myself, and it lies in my basement, unused, simply because I don't want to have to pay for the bear's ticket to new york.
 

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Verlander said:
My science isn't great either, surely it's a bit rich referring to a black hole as a "known object"... correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those still theoretical? Like, by their very nature are almost impossible to confirm existing?
We can observe Black holes in space by the way they bend light.
 

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Dulcinea said:
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I can prove something doesn't exist; I guarantee you something doesn't currently exist that, when it does exist, makes everything appear pink to everyone.
Well you could do that with contact lenses and colouring the middle pink, how do you know that some alien race hasn't made that?

Or an atom or molecule which happens to have absorption resonances with all the visible light spectrum and remits it all as pink, or a pink light bulb. Not having seen something which does something is not proof
Because everything isn't pink to everyone right now.

My words were: "I guarantee you something doesn't currently exist." If it did, everything would be pink. Everything isn't pink. So it doesn't exist.
Apologies I misread, so can you prove that it is not the case that all we observe is different shades of pink and we have learned to distinguish the different shades it produces from different parts of the visible spectrum. Or can you know with certainty that, that isn't the case but there isn't also something else which exists which makes me and you immune to it's effects. Or everyone on Earth.

However well done i had to think for a bit there.
 

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Alright, rather than continually add to that, let's use a simple example; there is no visible 40ft long shark in my soda can.

BAM.
The problem there is that's a problem of detection, because you can't detect it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, there could be a 40ft long shark in your soda can, unfortunately you've limited yourself to the one detection method.
 

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Dulcinea said:
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Alright, rather than continually add to that, let's use a simple example; there is no visible 40ft long shark in my soda can.

BAM.
The problem there is that's a problem of detection, because you can't detect it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, there could be a 40ft long shark in your soda can, unfortunately you've limited yourself to the one detection method.
But I made certain to note that it is a visible 40ft shark. That means it can be seen and it is too large to fit.

I proved it doesn't exist (because it cannot). Bam.
You're entirely missing the point and i have to go. what if you personally are blind to it and the shark doesn't obey Pauli's exclusion principle because he's a badass.
 

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It'd be a fantastic gravity generator- tiny portions of it could be used to create earth-like gravities on space stations.

Ossum.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
The machine's activities are obviously way above my pay grade, but I think we can all appreciate the work being done at the LHC as long as it doesn't suck us into Dimension X [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension_X_%28Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles%29].
Shredder would not appreciate that at all.

 

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Abandon4093 said:
Someone had better make a sugarcubed sized blob of this stuff and just drop it on the floor.

The results would be hilarious.
Quick we should give it to daily drop...Now that would be hilarious x10
 

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Abandon4093 said:
Someone had better make a sugarcubed sized blob of this stuff and just drop it on the floor.

The results would be hilarious.
Not for the chinese, I bet!