Would people stop saying "the laws of thermodynmics"?bz316 said:This is a complete load. 1st off, perpetual motion is impossible due to thermodynamics. 2nd off, even if this thing really did produce electricity by using gravity, its not "creating" energy, just generating it by means of converting mechanical energy to electrical energy. 3rd off, this video offers no evidence that its doing anything, since for all we know it could be spinning due to a hidden power source or something. And finally, where's their peer-reviewed research paper and test results backing their claim?
Haha, I always like that one too. they always seem to forget that alternators are already made from permanent magnets.SomethingAmazing said:Besides, whatever happened to that one idea of magnetic motors? Just wondering...seems like a good plan.
It turned out to be a really big inductor, which stores energy in a magnetic field. It resists change by converting the magnetic field into electrical energy.SomethingAmazing said:Since people are so convinced that something like that isn't possible and that most things like that turn out to be hoaxes, I would like to know what debunked that.tavelkyosoba said:Haha, I always like that one too. they always seem to forget that alternators are already made from permanent magnets.SomethingAmazing said:Besides, whatever happened to that one idea of magnetic motors? Just wondering...seems like a good plan.
nah, thats just an added extra. it just has to produce more that it takes.viranimus said:Actually I thought a perpetual motion machine requirement was not only to produce more energy than it uses, but to continually increase the level of energy production, basically making its production output infinitely exponential.
Obviously hydroelectric is real and works, but I wasn't talking about hydroelectric.SomethingAmazing said:Um, water powered engines exist and are used in real life power plants.XMark said:*yawn* another "Perpetual Motion" hoax. Someone comes up with a fake perpetual motion or free energy machine or water-powered engine every week or so.
To use gravity to move something you have to invest energy (moving it 'up') and the energy invested is always more than that which is produced due to energy losses (No such thing as 100% efficiency, always a loss usually shown as heat). If they claim that more energy goes into the battery than used, (Thin air e.g. 2kWh into battery for 1kWh investment), then we enter the realm of peer-reviewed, repeatable proof needed.lacktheknack said:Fine, but the device would suffice to power Earth for as long as we'd care for it to do so.Serioli said:Gravity is based on mass and all mass is decaying, eventually all mass will cease to exist and with it gravity. A really long timscale but not eternal/perpetual.lacktheknack said:Just out of interest: how do you account for gravity?Futurenerd said:THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TRULY PERPETUAL ENERGY.
GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS HUMANITY AND STOP BELIEVING THESE GUYS WHO SAY THEY'VE MADE THESE.
JEEZE.
Expect chaos. Gravity will cease to function, giant wormholes everywhere, paradoxes, complete damage to everything that ever was, ever is and ever will be...Ekonk said:EES NOT POSSEEBLE
But what if it is?