Lawsuit Blames Oblivion For Pilot's Seizure
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There does probably need to be some kind of self-enforced standardized limitation on factors that can trigger epileptic symptoms. Multimedia companies could consult with medical professionals, figure out what makes something "high risk" for agitating epilepsy, and what constitutes a low risk, and voluntarily develop standards of labeling for media that warns people if, say, a game is more likely than most to cause problems for epileptic people.
Every game comes with an epilepsy warning, so people tune them out... even though not every game has anywhere near the same chance of actually causing a seizure. It would be way more useful if there was some kind of labeling that lets people know "every game can cause siezures, but this one is more likely to".
Every game comes with an epilepsy warning, so people tune them out... even though not every game has anywhere near the same chance of actually causing a seizure. It would be way more useful if there was some kind of labeling that lets people know "every game can cause siezures, but this one is more likely to".
ummm, I have it with me as well and it actually does on the bottom back of the case. It's looks pretty clear to me.AC10 said:
completely unrelated to the topic... We share the same avatar!!!!!CardinalPiggles said:
holy shit!!
If the pilot had a seizure because of lighting effects in Oblivion, it's probably because he has photosensitive epilepsy.
If he has photosensitive epilepsy, he shouldn't be flying. That's why his flight privileges were revoked.
Strobe lights trigger seizures in people who have photosensitive epilepsy.
Strobe lights do not cause photosensitive epilepsy.
The entire suit seems predicated on the idea that the game itself caused him not to have a seizure, but to be vulnerable to having seizures. That, I think, would be a first.
The article alleges that the consumer was unaware of the seizure risk, but as many others have pointed out, there are warning labels on most games these days. The article also seems to allege that the flashing itself is unsafe-- but it's only unsafe for people who have photosensitive epilepsy; the only other mentions I see are possibility of video games causing seizures in children and adolescents with nonphotosensitive epilepsy, or people without prior history. For everyone who has epilepsy there is a first seizure, and something that leads to it. These triggers cause seizures-- not epilepsy.
Even if nothing else ever caused a seizure for this individual, even if nothing else ever would-- having that seizure caused by that game is essentially a positive diagnosis of photosensitive epilepsy, however specific the trigger may need to be. The seizure is a symptom, and the game is the trigger-- not the underlying cause.
If he has photosensitive epilepsy, he shouldn't be flying. That's why his flight privileges were revoked.
Strobe lights trigger seizures in people who have photosensitive epilepsy.
Strobe lights do not cause photosensitive epilepsy.
The entire suit seems predicated on the idea that the game itself caused him not to have a seizure, but to be vulnerable to having seizures. That, I think, would be a first.
The article alleges that the consumer was unaware of the seizure risk, but as many others have pointed out, there are warning labels on most games these days. The article also seems to allege that the flashing itself is unsafe-- but it's only unsafe for people who have photosensitive epilepsy; the only other mentions I see are possibility of video games causing seizures in children and adolescents with nonphotosensitive epilepsy, or people without prior history. For everyone who has epilepsy there is a first seizure, and something that leads to it. These triggers cause seizures-- not epilepsy.
Even if nothing else ever caused a seizure for this individual, even if nothing else ever would-- having that seizure caused by that game is essentially a positive diagnosis of photosensitive epilepsy, however specific the trigger may need to be. The seizure is a symptom, and the game is the trigger-- not the underlying cause.
It doesn't have to be a "condition" i had two seizures (both caused by lack of sleep + loads of caffein) and the doctors told that i do not have epilepsy but can go into a seizure under the right (or rather wrong ;P) conditions.Eri said:
EDIT: Just read up on it a bit....and apparently what i had weren't "real" seizures (iE no neurological reason)...guess it's like diet coke...looks just like it and tastes similar but yet not the same ;P
Bullshit, games had that seizure warning label on since before I was born.
And where the hell does Oblivion strobe anything?
The guy is just pulling this whole thing out of his ass, if you got a medical condition go find a doctor, money wont make you better.
And where the hell does Oblivion strobe anything?
The guy is just pulling this whole thing out of his ass, if you got a medical condition go find a doctor, money wont make you better.
Yes, they do, it's part of a long list of things that can remove them.Sebster 105 said:
I'm pretty sure than this type of trigger isn't part of flight physicals, yet.Eri said:
Yes, I did say yet. I'll have to ask if it is, or if they might add it.
He hasn't actually lost his job, just his flight status. The Navy will probably move him to general line status, unless it's actually a condition that forces them to remove him from the Navy entirely. If that's the case, because the condition wasn't known before he entered the Navy, it will be declared adult onset, and he'll get partial disability.The_Yeti said:
This case is quite laughable, sad that the pilot lost his job though, but every game i have ever played usually has the first screen after booting up the game saying that it can cause seizures. I can't be bothered to load up my copy of Oblivion (which i have only played 1 time for some reason) on my PS3, so there may be a exception.
oh yh! haha ive never noticed before.Burningsok said:
also if you scan up, one of my earlier posts is on point.
It depends where it was broken and how badly, And being a pilot, he would be subject to quite a lot of G-force which could make it break again. Not a good thing to happen mid-flight. It's sad but neccisary.Sebster 105 said:
EDIT: Oh yeah, and the whole epilepsy thing. Sorry, derped a bit hard there.
No, it was just a static screen. There were no flashing lights or anything there.The Stonker said: