ionveau said:
im sorry i understand you have too much invested in this game to see it in any other light. again i'm sorry.
to help you explain my frustration, the rune system is a thing that locks you to your account, and makes it so that you start the game with an invisible item that no one can see, in dota that would be kinda overpowered, This and the mastery system make your account hold the skill while to slowly add-on to it by grinding, even DOTA plyers know that the game has a very low skill cap after that its just good hero picks+grouping, LOL throws this on its face by locking out almost all champions leaving you with 10 champions out of 90 meaning you wont be able to make good group setups unless your very grind happy or buy it, my friend straight up refused to play LOL after he saw you where given 10 champions and needed to unlock the rest, he called it a competitive game for WoW players.
I like how you edited your post to avoid report and ban.
- ? to be honest i dont care about this forum, ban me see if i give a shit
Rune system - yeah it's horrible that you can customize your champion. Invisible item no one can see? Sure they can. I am pretty God damn sure you can see if someone has AP runes, or HP quints or even notice bonus HP regen during game. Except that EVERYONE can get those runes. And you can't buy them with real money.
- Ok that means nothing your using WoW player logic to justify balance, I never said anything about money are you just putting words into my mouth at this point?
Okay, some numbers. There are 14 champions for free every week, rotations change. Some champions are 4 wins to unlock. More complex (old-school, at least, like Karthus or Anivia) are more expensive, and newer ones are more expensive because it's a business. And they reduce old champions' prices every now and then to keep it balanced (from 3150IP to 1350).
- You just said they sacrifice balance for money, thank you.
Did you even understand what I said about leveling? It prevents at least partially pubstomps where someone who played 1000 games is matched against someone who is 10 games. It's worse than a bot game, because bots at least can hit keys and know what their abilities do. You can see what happens when sometimes a group of 30, 30, 30, 30, 5 is grouped against a full 30 team. The guy who is 5 is a dead weight in 99% of the games. Not because of masteries. Or because of runes. Hell I can win a lane with physical champion using caster runes (and seen pro gamers do it at high Elo games) against another physical using correct runes. It's a matter of SKILL and EXPERIENCE.
- Yes this was solved around 15 years ago by tracking player stats and match making, no need for Leveling and points that make your champion stronger at the beginning of games, imagine is CS did that, its ok i understand your stuck using wow player logic.
Because sometimes you still get idiots who got to 30, full runepage and still suck.
-I think you call them grinder's thanks to the grind friendly system riot made.
Also, if you find me a new Moba that is F2P, doesn't require you to unlock characters with in-game currency or money shop and is competitive like LoL, I'll give you $1000. DotA 2 doesn't count, still beta.
- Ya i dont have time just look in the bin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freeware_video_games I would like pay pal please
- And again thank you for admitting that LOL is not balanced thanks to the cash shop.
What I find enjoyable is that DotA players claim the skill cap in LoL is low. Yeah, sure, you don't have to learn how to use the overcomplicated shop or minimalistic minimap. Except if you actually played LoL, you'd notice the difference between level 10 and level 30, and then 1200 Elo and 1500 elo, then 1500 elo and 2k elo.
-What? no overall all DOTA style games have low skill caps, its just one person that your controlling if you think that after 50 games anyone would find it hard is just silly, overall DOTA style games are for casuals, You dont only rely on yourself if you suck your team mates can save you why, Also why do LOL players care about ELO so much? Garena pubs just play >_>...oh i remember its branded on your account for everyone to see, its kinda cute but if your older than 13 its kinda silly judging yourself by a number in a cash shop heavy game.
Heaven and earth. Also I find it weird, so many DotA players claim LoL is easy, but they don't want to come here, make a team and win some free money prizes? I don't get it, it should be so easy...
-If a bring my DOTA team to LOL we have to
1 grind level 30-200 games
2 Buy 3 rune pages-400 games
3 Unlock all the champions in order to make a decent setup-$1000 or play 4000 games