Leeroy Jenkins question

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Jojo1378

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Everyone know Leeroy Jenkins now-a-days, but I was wondering if it was faked. Does the game really get so over-the-top with calculations and getting into the tedious details or did they just want to make a very hilarious video and act the whole thing? I wouldn't think people would get into a game that they would figure probabilities cause it seems like there would be too many variables. So was it faked?
 

dududf

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Probably real.

If everyone is slightly under the level you need to be,then you have to plan that stuff out.
 

SnootyEnglishman

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No it was not faked. It was a genuine thing. I've never played WoW myself but i know people who have and i've seen them play it and it does take a lot of strategy when planning a raid.
 

Olikunmissile

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Oh it's real.

I was there.

[small] OK haha I lied, but having been in real raid parties, oh yes it get's like that, and personally? I love leading raids![/small]
 

Estocavio

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Its impossible to say - However, they had no way of knowing it would spread the way it did. It seems random simply because it wasnt distributed by the makers. The math could be legitimate if he was using a calculator in another window, and already had all their stats punched in.

Just think of all their health, skill points, attack damage, defence
Divided By
Number of enemies
Subtract enemy attack damage and add enemy defence
Multiply by the number of players present
Subtract healing items by number, not capability
Factor in potential Magic

Theyd been planning this for a while, he could have already worked it out.
Some people play WoW to the point that they would have all the values committed to memory, think right into it.

Having said that, "Leroy's" lines towards the very end seemed slightly premeditated, and his willingness to charge in, while claiming to be a serious WoW player do bring its authenticity into doubt.

On these grounds, i declare that... We will never know for sure :p
Case closed
For this was definately a court case, in which i am the defence, prosecutor, and that wierd guy whos always in the audience watching.
 

KefkaCultist

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that was in vanilla WoW which was much harder to plan raids and have them go right compared to WoW now so I'm pretty sure its real
 

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SnootyEnglishman said:
No it was not faked. It was a genuine thing. I've never played WoW myself but i know people who have and i've seen them play it and it does take a lot of strategy when planning a raid.
Its was faked. They wernt even doing a raid it was Upper black rock spire. thats a regular high level dungeoon in Vannilla wow. 56-60. It was purley faked. sure the dragon egg part is hard but eh not really.

just clearing things up
 

Yureina

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The movie itself was faked (you can see evidence of that in the actual movie), but events like that do actually happen in WoW raiding. There are people who do stupid mistakes like that, or who are just being plain crazy. That's why the movie was funny in the first place.

Though... in 5 years of raiding I have never seen anyone use that sort of statistic point sort of business in any serious way. Maybe for spreadsheets or something, but even then...
 

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Definitely faked, but based on real events. A WoW player like myself can point out all the flaws, such as a paladin wanting cloth armor.

* The expression "WIPE TIME!" is written in the guild chat of the recording player at the beginning of the movie. Though this may have been an attempt at humor by one of the guild members.

* One of the raid members asks, "Does [Leeroy] need those Devout shoulders?" The Devout shoulder piece, or more precisely [Devout Mantle], is a cloth item from the priest set Vestments of the Devout. Leeroy, being a paladin, would rarely need to wear a cloth item. To this question, one of the raid members responds, "it'll help him heal better, he needs more mana." Even though, with the paladin itemization of that time, it was not uncommon that healing paladins would use mail, leather or cloth armor for healing, the shoulders in question would not have been especially well served for that purpose.

* The calculation of survival percentage ? the calculations are nonsense ("32.33 repeating" percent chance of survival) and serve only to parody nerd guilds who overuse meaningless statistics.

* The strategy being discussed is unlikely to succeed and is largely counter-productive: the Father Flame event is possibly one of the hardest events to master, simply due to the large number eggs that will potentially hatch during the fight. The use of Intimidating Shout would not help; if anything, it would only keep the whelps off the group for a few seconds and possibly pull even more. Casting Divine Intervention on the spellcasters is similarly useless ? it would prevent them from casting anything (one of the members even yells in the video, "I don't think you can cast with that shit on!").

* Most members of the raid can be seen purposely running over eggs to release more whelps. When whelps have already been released, this is the last thing anyone who has any knowledge of the encounter would do, except if the person was trying to make it more difficult for the group to survive.

* The video was first posted to the official forums under the topic title "Rookery overpowered ? BLUE PLEASE!", in which the guild made an impassioned appeal to Blizzard to lower the difficulty of the Rookery because they were unable to handle all of the whelps, despite their formidable AOE fear rotation. The obvious solution (and nature of the joke itself), of course, is that the Rookery is trivial if you step on as few eggs as possible, rendering the need for a "fear rotation" useless. If you must do the event, going out of your way to step on extra eggs certainly does not help the matter.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Leeroy_Jenkins_%28video%29
 

Schwad

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It was assuredly faked. "A success rate of 33.3% (the three repeating, of course)" is a dead giveaway. You can't just calculate a probability of success at something as complex and subject to human and technological error as a raid in vanilla WoW. I've never raided before, but I'm pretty sure that if one guy just bolts in, obviously not adhering to the plan, that guy won't get much help, and will probably just die and have to run back in to rez.

It's still pretty funny though.
 

Roofstone

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It was faked. The guild admitted it themself. It was a..Let's call it commercial. For the guild. Simple as that. Says((Said atleast. Dunno about now)) so on wowwiki even.
 

Keava

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It was fake however back in the early days of WoW such things were common. Upper Blackrock Spire used to be semi-raid, it was balanced for 10-15 people (raids back then were 40 man, now are 10/25), and before people got used to how the game works and got decent gear people did wipe on that encounter. Keep in mind back in vanilla no one got free epix from running 5mans.

And ye, if you raid seriously (as in aim for server/world/region 1sts) you need all the theory crafting you can manage. For average joe it won't be ever needed however.
 

Manicotti

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I'm also going to say it was fake (esp if that's what the fact is). It is, however, a great parody of the raid environment.
 

Impluse_101

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I read somewhere it was a fake act. Still funny as hell.

and if that was really happening, I'd laugh my butt off more now thinking on it. but I dont. :|